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Booby Blues, Anyone?

There's a lot of awareness and information out there about post-partum depression. But what people don't talk about -- at least, I'd never heard it -- is that weaning can also lead to moodswings and depression. It makes total sense, when you think about it: You've had prolactin and oxytocin (the same stuff that's in ectasy, for God's sake) coursing through your veins for months -- a double dose of it, in my case. Take it away, even gradually, as I've been doing, and you're bound to have a bit of a come-down.

 

Yesterday, I finally decided -- after much hemming and hawing and saying "well, maybe next week" -- that I was ready to finish weaning the girls. In December, I'd cut down to nursing just three times a day, then to two in January, and finally, just before my trip to New York, down to once, first thing in the morning. Since then, maybe because they're getting more from their evening bottle than they were getting from me, the girls have been sleeping later -- until seven or seven-thirty a.m. instead of six or six-thirty. I need to be out the door to work by 7:30ish myself and don't want to wake the girls up early just to nurse them. They need their sleep, and Alastair appreciates the extra shut-eye, too. Given the fact that their nap schedule is in transition, too, this just seemed like a natural stopping point.

 

And the girls are totally fine with it. Honestly, for the past few months I've sometimes felt like I was forcing them to nurse. I was lucky if I could get them to stay on the boob for more than a minute or two at a time.  Who wants to lie in once place, waiting for the let-down (which started taking longer and longer) when you could be chugging a bottle while walking around the room? 

 

So, we're stopping. This is day two of no nursing. And I feel like utter shite, my friends. I feel grumpy and hazy and foggy and down. I feel like staying in bed, burrowed under the covers, or lying on the couch in my PJs watching bad TV. I keep heaving heavy sighs. My veins hurt. Everything feels like a huge effort.

 

How do I know all this is a hormonal thing? Well, I started feeling not-so-hot soon after I cut down to one nursing, and it's gotten sharply worse since yesterday. I'm also familiar enough with depression to know when it's circumstantial and when it's chemical. In this case, I suppose, it's probably a little of both, one fueling the other. Stopping breastfeeding -- especially when you're pretty sure you won't be having any more children -- is an emotional thing. It's definitely the end of an era, and I can't help feeling a sense of loss and nostalgia. My little babies are growing into children, and it's bittersweet. But I don't think I would suddenly feel better if I changed my mind and decided to nurse them a while longer. (That is, not until the hormones re-upped.)

 

I guess what I'm saying (See? I can't even write clearly...) is that I'm pretty sure this the right time for me to wean. I think if I did it two, three, six months from now, it would probably feel exactly the same. This feeling of utter...uck...is not guilt or regret or grief, but my body chemistry recalibrating itself.

 

I just hope it doesn't take too long. 

  

Sorry for such a depressing post. Here -- I'll end on a lighter note, with a very silly picture of me taken a couple of months ago, full of oxytocin and prolactin and breastmilk. And check out that rack!

 

 


 

Ah. Those were the days.

 


+ DIGG + DEL.ICIO.US

Comments

 

ewokmama said:

I am dealing with a similar situation as I have cut out pumping after 18 months.  In my case, the hormones from breastfeeding were definitely working in my favor to make my depression manageable.  As soon as I stopped I realized things were getting out of hand and I put in a call to my doctor!

February 12, 2008 5:24 PM
 

Jen said:

You are adorable. I came late to your blog but love reading it and the girls are delicious. You can also get pregnant again and again if you need to recapture the sensations...

February 12, 2008 6:44 PM
 

Renee said:

The hormonal havok wreaked on us by our children...  I had a similar experience weaning my son back in December, after 18 months of nursing.  

I think it's a weird time, emotionally.  On one hand, you're happy to see your babies grow up, and you gain a bit more independence and control over your body.  On the other hand, there's a real sense of loss at the close of this exclusive, special, physical dependence you've shared since they were just little clusters of cells.

Not to mention the depressing loss of boobage that comes with weaning, at least for me.  Pre-pregnancy I started out a C, the 1st year of nursing had me at a super duper DD, late nursing a D, and post nursing I'm down to a B.  For someone who hates bra shopping as much as I do, that's a lot of territory to cover!  Hope your rack doesn't deflate too much.

February 12, 2008 8:43 PM
 

Laura said:

I weaned about a month ago and the same thing happened to me - knowing that it could happen helped a lot.  I am definitely starting to feel better.  My best advice is just to ride the wave and remind yourself it is a very common side effect of weaning. Go ahead and stay under the covers every once in a while. It occurred to me over the last month that exercise might help, but I was too lazy to try..

Anyone can see that you and your milk did an outstanding job at growing two gorgeous babies.  HUGE kudos to you for being dedicated enough to nurse twins for a year! I know you will feel better soon.

February 12, 2008 9:51 PM
 

Aunt Heidi said:

Jane, I will always think you have a nice rack!

February 13, 2008 9:35 AM
 

T's mom said:

can you come photograph me so I look rested and cool and not like the old hag I do! HA...

Same thing happenened to me when I weaned and I was already on anti-depressants. My Doc and I decided to up the dose a little to compensate. Must say, though, that I was happy to have my body back finally.

February 13, 2008 10:25 AM
 

Leah said:

Oh, how I miss my milk boobs!  I know weaning can be tough, for me it was tough emotionally rather than physically.  It will get better though!

February 13, 2008 7:16 PM
 

SER said:

This is happening to a good friend of mine right now - all the same stuff (less frequent feedings, longer letdown period, less interest on the part of the baby, etc.).  And she is feeling blue as well.  I think that on the non-chemical side of things it seems that there's no real perfect ending to breastfeeding for anyone, and then you compound that with the hormone crash, and who wouldn't feel blue?

Hang in there!

February 13, 2008 7:19 PM
 

Melissa said:

I know how you feel.  I probably won't be having another child either, and every stage my son grows out of makes me sad.  I still have a bag of bottles that I can't really bear to part with.  And like Renee stated above, I had the same boob fluctuations.  Boy do I miss my boobs!  What I'm left with is depressing.

February 13, 2008 8:54 PM
 

betty said:

important note on boobage depletion: when your boobs get smaller everyone will think you are skinnier. it's amazing. ;)

February 13, 2008 10:23 PM
 

abbysmama said:

I just weaned my 15 month old a few weeks ago & I've been feeling down, too.  I'd never heard of this phenomenon before, but it totally makes sense.  Cuddling with my little one before bedtime has helped a bit.

Even tho I don't have twins, I love reading your blog.  It always strikes a chord with me.  Your writing is amazing & your girls are beauties.  Hang in there.

February 14, 2008 9:40 AM
 

knockedup said:

You're right - no one talks about this, or at least no one I know.  Makes sense, though.  This is a helpful heads-up for all the currently breastfeeding moms out there.  

February 14, 2008 10:52 AM
 

MidLifeMama said:

I had the opposite problem - I cried every time I pumped. Cooper was premature, so he didn't catch on to the breast feeding thing, so I was pumping. But every time I did it, I just sat there and cried. It didn't hurt, it just caused this bizarre overwhelming sadness. I finally gave up after a month. I wasn't producing enough to feed him all breast milk, so it just didn't make sense to torture myself for it. If I had been producing enough, that would have been different. It was just WEIRD. Hormones are a hoot, huh?

February 14, 2008 3:59 PM
 

superblondgirl said:

Cute picture - I love the tongue out psycho chick expression.  I weaned my son at 21 months and he's 5 now, and sometimes I still miss nursing... there's just something about that connection and closeness and that dependence upon you that is so... something.  Can't think of the word.  But I feel your pain.  I was pretty crazy prior to weaning (I actually weaned because I had to go on medication for the Crazy), so I don't remember feeling really depressed and hormonal, but I do know that I felt like something was missing for a long time, and I still feel like I weaned him sooner than either of us would have liked (which will, of course, weird some people out).

February 14, 2008 4:08 PM
 

Lena said:

You'll be feeling better soon. I just weaned my 9 month old girls a month ago, and I only felt the way you're feeling for a week - maybe 2? Each day gets better.

February 14, 2008 5:30 PM
 

Lauren said:

I got depressed after weaning my second kid, too. And to the person complaining about her post-wean B cups... I went from a C/D to a AAA. Total breast deflation. I used to think plastic surgery was for Southern California barbie dolls, and now I'm pricing boob jobs... I think a nice B cup would do it.

February 14, 2008 7:20 PM
 

Roper said:

Thanks, everybody, for sharing your stories and support. I'm still feeling pretty low, but am hanging in there, and reminding myself that it will pass. And then my boobs will shrivel to nothing.

Sigh.

February 14, 2008 9:00 PM
 

Amy said:

I so miss my twin-breastfeeding boobs.  I put on a bathing suit last weekend, and it was a sorry sight.

Oh, I hope that didn't depress you further! :)

February 14, 2008 9:30 PM
 

Stephanie said:

Just wanted to chime in on both the weaning (*sigh* I too miss my milk-enduced rack.....) and the bathtime screeeeeaammiiiies. First, the weaning: I nursed my son due to a milk allergy--discovered at six months, which=no way in hell am I going to drink that stinky nasty soy crap you call formula. Haha. I shall continue to bite your nipples and make you bleed. Ha.--until he was 22 months. After that amount of time you can bet I had an emotional attachment to it too. I was thrilled to have my body back to being completely mine, but I started to feel 'empty' for lack of better words. (Although boobs did not become completely empty for another FIVE years......Bessie the Cow boobies refused to go away!) I work as an OB nurse and I still have nastalgic pains when I help a baby to breast and see that bond forming. It truly is fabulous. (Though, that said I absolutely support the formula feeding mommys too. I educate every patient I take care of, but I NEVER NEVER preach or make them feel guilty--or add to existing guilt--for their choice, as it is a very personal decision. I just believe that a woman should be given all the information and make an educated choice......anywhooooo)

Now, re: bathtime! My son went through a eerily similar behavior pattern, ie went from loving baths to "woman, why must you torture me?!?" in the blink of an eye. One day he loved em', next day he was literally crawling out of the tub while I was washing his hair. My solution was a plastic laundry basket. I know, wierd, but it worked for some reason. I would fill the tub up and then place the laundry basket in the tub and place him in it. I was told by a friend of mine that the wide expance of the tub flipped her kid out and she tried this and it worked. And, really, it did for me too. Just a thought!

February 14, 2008 10:47 PM
 

mags said:

I am so glad I read this because I had no idea!  I'm getting ready to start weaning my daughter, and while I knew to expect the deflation I thought that was enough to get depressed about.  I didn't even think about the hormonal consequences.  So, so glad you posted about this.  Thanks!

February 15, 2008 3:26 AM
 

cleverland said:

I weaned my little boy when he was a few months shy of his third birthday. I phased it out gradually, lords knows. My son was very reluctant to let go, and although I was down to one or two nursings a day (around sleep), it was still hard to get him to part with them. I finally had a weaning party and just drew a line in the sand. And then I DID, even at this late date, have the hormonal plunge. It was REALLY hard! Have you been packing your breasts in cabbage? This is a well-known home remedy for engorgement.

Here's a bit of the process on my blog:

catherine.blog-city.com/i_now_pronounce_him_weaned.htm

February 15, 2008 4:46 AM
 

Melissa said:

One more thing I miss about nursing is that it was a quiet time when you weren't expected to do anything else, except maybe read or watch tv.  And it was something nobody else could do for him but me.

February 15, 2008 1:35 PM
 

Rachel said:

As the 23rd person to comment, my insights aren't new...I felt  pretty low after weaning for a couple of weeks, but felt better quickly and then was happy to have my body back to myself, although I missed the closeness.  Eva and I still snuggle in the morning - and she's 3 1/2!

I must say I am jealous of everyone's boob deflation stories.  As someone who was a D cup before pregnancy/nursing, mine swelled to sizes I didn't know existed when I was nursing, and they still haven't shrunk back to their normal size.  I had to buy an entirely new top half of my wardrobe...and I still can't find a good supportive sports bra.  While this was bad luck for me, I thought I'd let you know that your rack may decide to linger! (Which, I guess would be good news based on everyone else's posts?)

R

February 15, 2008 9:31 PM
 

CFJ said:

Thanks for posting about this Jane.  I had a sense that I would feel some loss and depression upon weaning for emotional reasons, I hadn't stopped to think that there would be physical causes as well.  You've given me some insight on what is to come and I appreciate that very much.  I hope you are doing well and the sadness is easing.  This awful winter that is dragging on forever and ever probably isn't helping either!

February 16, 2008 6:42 PM
 

Fairygirl776 said:

I'm breastfeeding less than I used to, and I've certainly noticed a rather "depressive" ebb and flow. Tis true. On another note, I wonder if you heard Edwidge Danticat read at the conference? Or, God, everyone else slated? I know you already blogged about it, but as a fellow writer teeming with envy, I wonder about all the literary minutiae. Good luck with the "booby blues" . . . clearly the girls have been served well. You look absolutely fantastic. Even filled with prolactin and breastmilk and oxytocin and love, I still look a bit too Pillsbury dough-esque.

February 17, 2008 9:04 PM
 

Roper said:

Fairygirl, I didn't hear Edwidge Danticat read (unfortunately), but I did hear Russell Banks, William Kennedy and a few others. A confession, however: I'm actually not a huge fan of readings...I much prefer hearing writers talk about craft and process and literature in general. I prefer *reading* their work! Still, yes, it was an impressive menu of authors there.

And thanks for the compliment! I wish I could spent my whole life in front of a red backdrop with professional lighting. ;)

February 18, 2008 6:55 PM
 

Fairygirl776 said:

Thanks for writing back. I've read your blog for awhile but haven't commented. I agree with you - -I love readings myself but enjoy craft discussions even more. I heard Billy Collins give a talk on the general sensibility and practicality of poetry, and it was phenomenal.

February 21, 2008 10:37 PM
 

Lea at Quick Serve Kids said:

Awwww...I'm getting to this post late, and I see a lot of great comments are here already. Just wanted to say hang in there, and to second the notion that you gave your girls an incredible gift.

My daughter nursed for two and a half years and weaned really slowly. We did mornings-only for many months. Still, weaning was a deflating experience--in more than one way--and I had my first bout of mastitis while weaning. Ow! Hope you were spared that fun.

The depression's gone, but I still get all teary (in an isn't-that-beautiful-I-miss-it way) when I spot another mama nursing her baby. There's nothing like it.

- Lea at Quick Serve Kids

February 27, 2008 9:05 PM
 

Mom of Twins in Ohio said:

There is a page dedicated to this in What to Expect the First Year, but I'm not sure I would have seen it without this blog - thanks, I'm slowing down nursing my 7 month olds mostly because I HATE beyond words the breast pump these days... so they can still nurse if they want, but I am DONE pumping. (I pumped 8 times a day around the clock for the first 3 months)

April 22, 2008 5:01 PM
 

Felicia said:

I am so glad to have happened upon your blog today.  I have been feeling EXACTLY the same way and didn't know what to make of it.  My 13 month-old son was down to mornings only for the last 2-3 months and then I weaned him totally a week ago and have been feeling depressed and in a funk since then.  I was on anti-depressants before I got pregnant and haven't gone back to them until now.  I am so glad to see that I'm not the only one in this boat.  Enjoy those beautiful girls!

June 9, 2008 1:15 PM
 

Anne said:

This little blog is a god send... thanks. Having a big weep just reading it as I had my first day without feeding my one year old today. Feel awful, and also explains why I've been hormonal this month as dropped the 2nd last feed a few weeks ago. I see it's been a year since this all happened - I hope your boobs and babies have managed to fight fit since then! Thanks again

January 6, 2009 3:02 PM
 

jen said:

I got online because I am SO depressed lately and just realized it may be to do with weaning. I stopped nursing my 8 month old a month ago (I never produced enough so weaning was actually good for him. He got very frustrated nursing when he was hungry!)  I still had milk until I got a very bad cold last week. Suddenly my milk dried up and I have felt horrendous since then. Sobbing, angry at my husband. Worst is that I have a very busy work month so my mom is here to help out, and (because of how depressed I am feeling) she is driving me crazy. I am relieved to read this blog and all the comments! thank you thank you. Hopefully I'll start to feel better in a few days. Perhaps I'll go for a jog or something. . . anything !!!!

January 21, 2009 9:42 AM
 

Kathi said:

Hi, Oh I can relate so much to this.  It took me 6 years and 5 IV attempts to finally have a baby.  Of course I'd love more...can't happen.  I Breastfed for 20 months and honestly neither of us wanted to stop, it just seemed like it was no longer acceptable. Nobody around me thought she should be on my breast.  I still after 2.5 yrs have those little drops.  I think my hormones are out of wack due to peri menopause.  I so much want to go back !!! I want those full breasts and dripping milk.  I have also since disovered that they have upped the recommended minimum age for BF to 2 yrs.  I feel I didn't do enough. I now want to pump and give my 4 yr old a full glass of my milk per day.  I think it will help me get through this time and she will get more antibodies.  I have to relactate or induce lactation.  I am pumping just for stimulation and getting drops now.  Iknow some mothers are BFing up to 5-6 even 7 years.  I con't feel confortable with that and don't think any extremes for my child are OK.  I think a nice compromise on keeping that nurturing feeling, giving the best milk possible and overcoming stigma is to simply pump and poor the milk into a glass.  I'm sure this is easier said than done, but I want to try.  Has anyone else pumped for older children after weaning?

July 22, 2009 1:11 PM
 

TISH said:

THIS ARTICLE MADE MY DAY.  I RECENTLY STARTED WEANING MY 11 MO OLD.  I FELT WEEPY AND OUT OF SORTS.  I SEE THAT THERE ARE MANY OTHER WOMAN GOING THROUGH THE SAME THING I AM.  THANKYOU IS AN UNDERSTANDMENT.  

October 1, 2009 1:07 PM

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