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Last month, when I wrote about the depression I was experiencing after weaning, a commenter asked if I could talk more about my predisposition toward depression -- a detail I'd timidly revealed only in the comment thread. The truth is, while I'm pretty sure that this depression was triggered by the hormonal and emotional event of weaning, I also know that it probably wouldn't have happened (or have been so severe) if I didn't have a history of depression.

 

Since that commenter's request, I've been thinking a lot about whether or not to write more about depression here. I've sort of glossed over it in my recent posts, either being glib and offhanded about it or just avoiding the subject completely. On the one hand I feel like: well, nobody comes here to read a blow-by-blow of the state of my mental health. This is supposed to be a blog about my parenting experiences, right?  And while I reveal a lot of myself on this blog, there's certainly plenty I don't. Why should I write in detail about my experiences with a disease (condition, tendency, whatever) that's still so widely misunderstood, under-understood, and stigmatized. Do I want total strangers to know that I take antidepressants? Do I want the people at my work who read this blog to know? Or friends who I haven't revealed this to yet?

 

On the other hand, I feel like by dodging the issue, I'm just contributing to the stigma. If I had diabetes or migraine headaches or MS and it affected my day-to-day life, including my interactions with my children, wouldn't I write about it here? I think I would. I hope I would. Why should I be cagey or embarrassed about something that's both a common health issue and a part of who I am? This other hand is the one that (obviously) has won out. So, though it may make some folks uncomfortable, and though it may be slightly off-topic, I want to talk a little bit about depression. Bear with me.

 

First, some background: I started having occasional depressive episodes about ten years ago, and have been on and off (but mostly on) medication ever since. I stopped meds when we began trying to conceive, but it didn't go well -- the conceiving or the depression -- so I went back on, though at a lower dose. My doctors and I decided that the benefits of not being depressed far outweighed any risks that my medication could pose to my girls, both while in-utero and while nursing. (There are, in fact, no known risks with my particular med.)

 

I did OK; I had only one bout of depression during my pregnancy, and a few tough days post-partum, which is pretty much par for the course. But then came this recent period of depression triggered by weaning. (And perhaps pushed along by the emotional intensity of leaving my girls for the first time when I went to NY, and possibly a few other personal factors.) Anyway, a couple of weeks ago, I saw my doctor, and went back up to a higher dose of meds.

 

I'm happy to report that I'm feeling MUCH better now. You know, there's an advertising campaign out there for some antidepressant that uses the line "Welcome back." It's fucking genius. (I say that both as a copywriter and a depression sufferer.) That is exactly what it feels like to come out of depression. You come back. To yourself, your loved ones, your perspective, your life. If you're on the right medication, at the right dose, you don't feel euphorically happy or oblivious or without emotional range. You just feel like yourself.

 

I think it's really hard to understand clinical depression if you or someone very close to you hasn't experienced it. Lord knows I didn't. It's not something you can "shake off" or vitamin-supplement or talk your way out of. At least, not for me. And not for a lot of people who have it a helluva lot worse. Depression is highly individualized, so I can only talk about how it is for me, but when I'm depressed, it feels very phsyiological. I get lethargic and fatigued and foggy. I move more slowly than usual, sleep more than normal, and don't have much appetite. My eyes itch. My limbs feel achey and strange. I feel surges of dread for no reason, or suddenly feel like crying.  I can't concentrate or think clearly or make decisions. My memory fails me, and I feel like I don't quite have a firm grip on reality or a perspective on the larger reality of my life. Everything feels like an enormous, unpleasant effort: going to the store, answering the phone, getting up out of a chair. But most of all -- and worst of all -- I can't experience pleasure in much of anything. It's not so much a feeling of sadness as it is an utter lack of happiness. I can know, rationally, intellectually, that everything in my life is fine; I wouldn't change a thing. And yet, still, I feel like shit.

 

This is what much of the last five weeks were like. Luckily, I had good days (those were the days when I was able to eke out a blog post) and good hours during not-so-good days. For better or worse, I'm quite adept at soldiering through, faking it, functioning. I think this is due to both the relative mildness of my depression and my go-getter-ish personality. If you encountered me at work on a particularly lousy day, you might just think I was a little spacey or distracted; maybe just getting over a cold. (Or maybe just an unfriendly bitch. Ha!) But I'm lucky. I've never felt suicidal, and I have a husband who gets it -- he has depression, too, and talks about it openly -- and who is incredibly patient and supportive. I have financial security, a great network of friends and family, and health insurance.

 

Another thing I am grateful for is that I never felt so low during this past month that I neglected or mistreated my daughters. I may have been distant at times, impatient and short-tempered at others. But I still tried very hard to act present, even when I didn't feel that way. They could actually still make me smile and laugh. And I think they're too young to really notice that I was acting weird. The one time I curled up in a fetal position on the floor of the nursery in the midst of playing with them, they just climbed all over me and yelled "da da da da da da!"

 

OK, reading back over this post, it seems slightly melodramatic and self-indulgent (Fetal position? Oh, please). I don't mean it to come across that way. There are people who suffer far, far more profoundly from depression than I ever have, sometimes for years on end. It's not like I've been dying or anything. I guess I just want people to know that depression is real, and to try to be forgiving and patient and empathetic with those who have it. I want people who think that they might be clinically depressed to get themselves checked out, and know that it doesn't mean you're a wimp (or a hypochondriac) because you go to a shrink or take meds or can't just "snap out of it." I want, someday, for it to be as acceptable to say to someone "I'm having a rough day with my depression" as it is to say "I think I'm coming down with a cold."

 

I also want other women who are predisposed to depression to know that weaning can trigger a depression. And I want you all to know that my "booby blues," weren't completely out of the blue, which was what I implied by omission, because I was chicken. And depressed.

 

But I'm not anymore.

 

(Welcome back!)

 


Comments

 

Liz said:

Three cheers for boldness and honesty. Thank you for writing this.  I agree that sometimes, though we try to avoid certain personal issues in blogging, it's a tricky balance between privacy and adding to the unhelpful silence. I'm so glad you were able to make your way through.  Welcome back, indeed. :-)

March 12, 2008 11:23 PM
 

Eva said:

Thanks for sharing. I love that photo of the 3 of you.

March 12, 2008 11:27 PM
 

Amy Bolaski said:

Jane,

I think the blog is an apt forum for such a discussion. I believe many mothers, even those without a history of depression, experience some level of the "baby blues" past  the perceived "acceptable" period following birth. I know I did, and still do.  I don't have any shopworn metaphor to rely upon or a particular astute way to contextualize this depression to make it accessible, but I know it's very real and, as you say, so often stigmatized. I think moms are already especially vulnerable to criticism -- I can't tell you how many versions of "But you have a beautiful baby. You have several degrees. A job. Blah, blah. Blah. What could you possibly be depressed about?" I've heard. Guess what? They make me feel like shit.  I believe many female Babble readers are wearing many hats and already feel guilty for not having the time they'd like to devote to each layer of their lives. Add depression to the mix, and it makes for an ugly reality when left unexplored and undiscussed.  

I guess all this adds up to this: it's a rich topic ripe with possibilities for honest and open dialogue in a forum free from guilt and prying eyes.Carry on.

March 13, 2008 12:32 AM
 

Amy Bolaski said:

(This and the last comment are from FairyGirl . . . decided to do without the lame email moniker.)

March 13, 2008 1:35 AM
 

Mary said:

Thank you so much for writing this!  I'm a long-time reader of your blog and I definitely got a little emotional reading this entry today.  I have suffered from depression and severe anxiety since the age of five, and yet even many, many years later I still feel the need to keep it private.  There's such a huge stigma surrounding mental health, even though it is often a biologically based problem and should essentially be no more embarrassing than, say, a sprained ankle.  Thank you so much for having the courage to write about this - you don't know how much it means to me to see someone speak up openly about this issue.  THANK YOU!!!!

March 13, 2008 7:56 AM
 

Amy said:

Yes, thank you indeed.

March 13, 2008 8:13 AM
 

wendyr said:

Awesome post.  Just awesome.  

I too have suffered from bouts of depression for most of my adult life.  I am currently on medication for this current bout.  There is such a stigma attached - but as my doctor said, if I had high blood pressure or something she would put me on medication to help fix it, why not do the same if your mental health is not functioning properly?  Anyway, you really hit the nail on the head on how it feels to come out of depression - I feel like me once again.

This blog is particularly interesting to me also because my husband and I are seriously discussing the parenting thing.  We are not quite ready yet, but it is great for me to see that there are parents out there with a history of depression who have coped and controlled and still been an outstanding parent.  

March 13, 2008 8:43 AM
 

CFJ said:

Jane, thank you so much for this post.  I feel that we are of a generation that is becoming more accepting of mental health concerns and it is because people, like you, are willing to share their experiences.  

I have struggled with severe anxiety for most of my life (stemming from my father's death when I was 9 years old).  It is only recently that I have begun to share this issue with anyone beyond my mother and husband.  And as I've shared, I've found so many other people who have struggled with some of the same things. And it has helped...tremendously.  

March 13, 2008 9:13 AM
 

knockedup said:

This is such a courageous post - thank you for sharing your experience.  

March 13, 2008 10:02 AM
 

LMN said:

I second, or third, or fifth or whatever what everyone else said above.  Three cheers for writing about it, which took courage; three cheers for managing and working with the condition - which is hard.  No matter what obstacles or struggles others have, that doesn't change that we all face major challenges in our own lives - and that they're hard. It sounds like you really fought the good fight there. And finally, I am so glad that you're feeling better - welcome back, indeed!

March 13, 2008 10:08 AM
 

amanda said:

Thank you for sharing this. You rock!

March 13, 2008 10:14 AM
 

Bloo said:

Oh man, I echo all the statements of thanks. What an honest and wonderful post, which we ALL need to hear. I suffered with anxiety and depression for years without realizing it, until it got so bad that panic attacks started getting in the way of just living. Medication and therapy have changed and saved my life, and it's always good to hear about others who have embraced themselves and want to work on it. It's hard. It's scary. And I think it's a process that never stops. So thank you again for saying all that, and good on ya for dealing and getting through. Know that you are not alone. One day at a time, right?

March 13, 2008 10:44 AM
 

Melissa said:

Welcome back indeed!  Glad you're feeling better.

March 13, 2008 10:49 AM
 

churlita said:

I don't normally experience depression, but hormones can totally mess with me. I recently tried to go back on the pill and it made me so weird and cranky and needy that even I couldn't stand myself. I feel for anyone who suffers from depression and try to be so patient when my friends call me and aren't sounding logical and I know it's just their depression talking. I'm finally getting back to my old self too after dropping the pill.

March 13, 2008 11:09 AM
 

ewokmama said:

I'm so glad you wrote this.  I am going through a similar experience and I often feel embarrassed about discussing it.  I definitely think it's important to talk about it more to hopefully erase some of the social stigma.  I am glad you got help!

March 13, 2008 12:00 PM
 

J said:

Thank you for sharing this. I completely agree with your hope for  "someday, for it to be as acceptable to say to someone "I'm having a rough day with my depression" as it is to say "I think I'm coming down with a cold." I'm glad you're feeling better!

March 13, 2008 12:04 PM
 

Andrea said:

Thank you, thank you!  Too many people are ashamed about this, and women willing to say look at me, I have depression, but I control it and I can still live my life should be applauded for making a difference.  (Clapping loudly, alone in my office)   Also, are those Dansko's you're wearing in that picture?  I am a total Dansko lover and I instantly feel a kinship with anyone else who knows how fabulous they are!

March 13, 2008 1:27 PM
 

Clementine said:

I'm glad you wrote this post, too.  It's not self-indulgent or dramatic, and it might help folks identify their own depression and get some help.  

I've had 2 pretty good bouts of major depression in my life, and what has stayed with me is how everything just took so much effort when I was depressed.  In particular, I remember being 14 years old and crying in the shower because it just felt too hard to lift my legs into and out of the bathtub.  I knew it was ridiculous, which made me feel even worse.  Showering also seemed pointless:  I'd have to shower the following day and the one after that, and for what?  To this day, when I start thinking, "Why bother showering today?  I'm just going to have to do it again tomorrow," I get a tiny glimpse of what my depression used to feel like.  That's when I know I'm on the edge.  It rarely happens nowadays, but the tendency is never completely gone.

March 13, 2008 2:00 PM
 

Renee said:

What a great post.  I hope all these positive responses confirm that you made the right decision in talking about your experiences with depression.  

I've suffered only one relatively brief bout with clinical depression, but I remember how physically difficult it was.  I'm also keenly aware of the stigma attached to it.  My mother only recently disclosed to me that she has been battling depression and anxiety for several years (years!).  She was afraid to tell anyone (even me, a psychology professor), which led to conflict and misunderstandings that have seriously strained and damaged our relationship.  All because of this fear we have of talking about mental health issues.  Kudos to you for stepping outside that.

March 13, 2008 2:04 PM
 

Roper said:

Thank you thank you thank you, everyone!! It was really scary to publish this post, so I'm so glad to know that people appreciate and/or can identify with it. I love Babble readers! I want to invite you all over for coffee.

And, yes, Andrea -- they're Danksos. I got 'em when I was pregnant and none of my other shoes fit and I wear them all the time now. They're great!

March 13, 2008 2:22 PM
 

betty said:

you are courageous and graceful and let's not forget funny. thanks for sharing so much of yourself.

March 13, 2008 2:35 PM
 

chochomom said:

"I want, someday, for it to be as acceptable to say to someone "I'm having a rough day with my depression" as it is to say "I think I'm coming down with a cold.""

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You are incredibly brave and generous to share you story with us. Being open about depression is the only way to eliminate the stigma of it. I hope that our children will be able to talk about depression and other mental illnesses in the same way we talk about other chronic illnesses.

March 13, 2008 3:20 PM
 

mombo said:

You're my hero on multiple levels. This piece was beautifully written. When that Great American Novel is finished, I'll be among the first in line to plunk down my cash.

Go Jane!

March 13, 2008 4:09 PM
 

Julia said:

You are so brave!  Thank you so much for posting this.  

March 13, 2008 4:17 PM
 

Annie said:

Thank you for this post, it must have been difficult to write and expose yourself like that, but it is wonderful that you did.  It will help a great number of people, and, as you said it will help to lessen the stigma surrounding mental health issues.  I'm in the healthcare field, and yet, as I watched my aunt suffer with severe depression to the point where she attempted suicide, and for a long while, I am ashamed to say, I couldn't help but think "snap out of it, you're being ridiculous!"  Luckily she is still here today, but still struggles with depression.  People with this problem don't see the world in the same way that the rest of us do, and you are absolutely right when you say that it's not just something you can "shake off."  Sharing your experiences helps those of us without depression to understand better what it's all about, and those with depression to seek help and perhaps to speak out as you did to help reduce the stigma.

PS Danskos really are the best!

March 13, 2008 4:19 PM
 

Cathy Carey said:

Jane,

Brave, important, awesome post!  I've suffered from depression for 16 years.  Your description is spot on.  And I agree it's hard to talk to people about being depressed because most people just don't understand that's it's not being sad it is the total lack of happiness.

Fortunately I've only been close to suicidal but the idea of my husband finding me has stopped me every time.  I also have a great shrink who's always there is times of real crisis.

Welcome back, indeed

from usually winecat.  I felt this post needed my real name

March 13, 2008 5:28 PM
 

Roper said:

Hi Winecat / Cathy. I've always wondered who you were!

March 13, 2008 5:38 PM
 

Erin S. said:

Welcome back and thank you so much for the blog. I am so happy I tell all my friends about your blog!  It is soooo true that if you or someone close to you doesn't suffer from depression - you have no idea.  It would be so much easier if people could be mature enough to talk about it as simply and eloquently as you just did.  Thanks for going OT.

March 13, 2008 8:19 PM
 

LisaC said:

This is really moving. I don't have depression, but my husband does, and we are trying for our first child. He has a lot of fears about his (rather severe) depression and being a parent. I look forward to showing this to him. Thank you.

March 14, 2008 2:23 PM
 

rikkicarey said:

Wonderful post! And Welcome back :)

Thank you for having the courage to talk about depression in such a frank and sensitive way. You are right on the money, there is nothing to be ashamed of and depression really needs to be in the open. It is almost as common as the common cold so why do we feel the need to hide it. (and make it worse)

March 14, 2008 2:32 PM
 

Edgy Mama said:

Welcome back!

Beautifully written and expressed.

March 14, 2008 2:42 PM
 

Jaja's Momma said:

Hello, thank-you so much for your story -- I feel like I really needed to hear that right now.  I recently had my baby 4 mos.ago(first time mommy) & this whole time I've been going through postpartum depression & have been feeling I  have no one or nothing to turn to, to help me out of this fog...I divulged it to my partner & I got the same reaction that I feared you just wrote about that I'm acting indulgent, ungrateful since I have just given birth to a beautiful baby girl...he told me exactly that phrase to just "snap out of it"...I tried talk therapy for just one session with him & afterwards he said it was an  utter waste of time b/c he felt like the psychiatrist was in there just for the money & she was literally just watching the clock when our time was up...I asked my ob/gyn what I should do & she tried to give me some estrogen patches thinking maybe b/c of the drop of estrogen/ hormone levels it would help but it didn't...now, she asked if I need to take meds...and in my own culture & my own background, I just am against taking any medications but since the "fog" hasn't lifted, I feel I have to take it but I don't want to tell my partner b/c I'm afraid I'll get the same unsupportive stance from my partner...I'm reaching out & really need the advice -- may I ask--  is it really safe to take meds while breastfeeding & how did  you feel when you first took the medication?  I'm sorry to be asking advice outright on this forum but I feel I literally have no one to turn to b/c I'm raising this baby alone (my partner & I are unmarried & we live together but I feel like I'm the main caregiver ...also, I have no family closeby to help me or even to listen since it's a long story -- we're estranged from each other).  Any shedding of light would help me so much...I feel like in dispair & feel a bit pathetic & out of it all at the same time...so please help...lastly, I have to start work next week & I don't know how I'm going to make it through the first week back still feeling how I'm feeling...how do you cope at work?

p.s. - One side note, my partner is a musician & maybe privately you can give me a few tips on how to deal living with a musician or just understanding him more...

March 14, 2008 2:46 PM
 

CMA said:

"Total lack of happiness" You hit that one spot on. Thank you for writing this post.

March 14, 2008 3:06 PM
 

zanna said:

You hit so many familiar notes, as the commenters before me have noted. Thank you for being brave and posting this. More of us need to do the same. It's disturbing to me how the stigma still sticks so tenaciously to depression...despite, yknow, plenty of antidepressant ads, etc, the mere sight of which make me feel like crying when I'm, well, probably much in need of the products they're hawking.

For my part, I'm in awe of how good pregnancy has been to my mind/my mood. GONE (mostly) is the lack of happiness/excessive worry; GONE are the crying jags. Is THIS how "normal" people feel most of the time? It makes me all the more convinced that part of my problem must be PMDD--or perhaps that's my problem, period. (Pun intended.) And as excited as I am to meet my daughter, I'm afraid of getting my pre-pregnancy hormones & brain chemicals back. The old me. No idea what's in store.

March 14, 2008 3:42 PM
 

ewokmama said:

Jaja's Momma - this link describes the antidepressants that are the safest while breastfeeding.  There are quite a few options, especially since your baby is older than 3 months.

www.kellymom.com/.../antidepressants-hale10-02.html

Usually the risks of medication are much less than the risks of untreated depression.

March 14, 2008 4:13 PM
 

newmama said:

good for you! i know it must've been a big  leap to hit "post" on this one... you are brave and your girls are lucky to have such a strong mamma.

March 14, 2008 4:49 PM
 

KP said:

Jaja's Momma,

I was in exactly the same state -- breastfeeding and wary of taking meds but feeling so awful without them.  (I had been on them before the pregnancy but stopped when I learned I was pregnant.  I felt absolutely wonderful the whole time I was pregnant -- but that ended about 24 hours after the birth!)  I was unable to sleep and paralyzed with anxiety and exhaustion.  I'm a single mom.  I realized that I was just not there for my baby like I needed to be, and my dr. put me on zoloft, which he was certain would be fine.  It worked -- I am back, I am enjoying my baby, and she is doing spectacularly well -- no problems at all.  I just got to a point where meds were no longer an option but a necessity.  I met several other moms (in a postpartum depression group) who had struggled with the decision but were glad they had gone on meds.  The thing is that dragging along in a depressed state has really bad consequences for everyone.  My dad was depressed on and off during my entire childhood (he was undiagnosed and untreated), and it wrought havoc in our family.  I can't tell you what to do, but I wanted you to know that meds worked out well for me.  Good luck!

March 14, 2008 4:49 PM
 

Bloo said:

Jaja's Momma - is there any way you could go to talk therapy without your partner? I know that couples therapy can be really useful, but in this case it sounds like you are having a bit more trouble than he is. It might be more useful if you could talk openly and know that the person listening was completely objective. Then your therapist could turn you on to a psychiatrist if you need medication. I know it's a scary prospect, but it is so worth it.

I'm really sorry you are in such a tough place and without a lot of close family nearby. Hang in there. You'll get through it. And you're not alone.

March 14, 2008 4:52 PM
 

KP said:

And I, too, am so glad for this post.  What a fabulous blog and what a courageous blogger!  Thanks for helping things move in the right direction.

March 14, 2008 4:54 PM
 

Kristin said:

I want to thank you so much for this posting. Openly talking about this is critical. I suffer from OCD, and was not correctly diagnosed until a severe postpartum OCD episode after the birth of my first child in 2002.  In my life I had two episodes of severe anxiety prior to the birth, but thought I just had “anxiety issues” unaware that OCD was more than obsessive, crazed hand washing.  One of the things that your post does so well is to describe the physiological aspect of depression, which I found accurate and is very much the same with OCD / anxiety (you are “IN” it so to speak).  This is important because I think it is very difficult for loved ones to help you if they don’t understand this aspect of the illness.  Trying to reason with the person just doesn’t work!  During the worst of my episode, I was in the hospital having hallucinatory nightmares and general fear so horrible I could hardly move, hardly speak. I was obsessed with the fear that I was going to somehow ? throw my baby out the window.  This was something I could not describe to my husband, family, doctor, anyone.  I was “IN” this other world and what was worse, the hospital was completely unprepared to deal with it.  I didn’t breathe a word of my worst fears to my husband but did request a psychiatrist or therapist.  They sent me a religious councilor who patted my leg and stared down at me with (what seemed at the time) a zombie, “yes I am in a cult, you should join too” expression.   Our medical system does a TERRIBLE job of dealing with mental health issues. Why are we not all screened for postpartum depression and related illnesses during pregnancy? If I had, the potential would have been obvious and I would have been prepared with a psychiatrist and medication ready.  My second pregnancy was like preparing for battle!  I was lucky, it didn’t happen the second time around, In part because I was ready. Ok enough rant.. Thank you for your candor.  

March 14, 2008 5:31 PM
 

Valerie said:

Thank you.  I just restarted meds after thinking I was such a loser for being on (needing to be on) meds to begin with.  So thank you, this helped.

March 14, 2008 5:40 PM
 

Maujer said:

Thanks for sharing that, I needed to hear that now, as I am trying to wean and totally having depression and anxiety.

One thing I want to add: postpartum depression symptoms are very close to thyroid symptoms, and let me tell you, as someone who has suffered both, it's definitely worth getting your thyroid checked just to be sure that's not a contributing factor.

March 14, 2008 6:22 PM
 

Jen said:

Thank you so much for posting this!  As a breastfeeding mom, with a history of depression, it means so much to hear a honest experience!!

March 14, 2008 7:53 PM
 

Jordan said:

No one has ever mentioned 'the weaning blues' before and now everything I've felt over the past week makes sense!  

March 14, 2008 8:34 PM
 

Shannon said:

Jaja's momma-  here is an online webpage from Washington state that provides many links and lots of help

www.wcpcan.wa.gov/.../home.htm-

As the daughter of a woman who committed suicide from post partum depression when I was only 9 months old,  please please please get some help.  Your child needs you to be the best that you can be even if that means that you end up taking meds that keep you from breastfeeding.  Having you around and thriving at her high shool graduation means more than anything.  I have my own children now and can only imagine the agony that my mother must have endured. My children are adopted because I couldn't bear the thought of my kids having to endure what I did without a mom.  I too have suffered from depression without pregnancy and was too afraid to chance it myself.  

And thank you to Roper for this brutually honest and insightful post.  I will share it with others in my family to help with the misunderstandings.  

March 14, 2008 8:55 PM
 

Shannon said:

sorry the website is www.wcpcan.wa.gov/ppd

March 14, 2008 9:02 PM
 

nutterbutter said:

I am also the mother of twins who will be 2 in just a few more weeks. With my first child who is now 8 1/2 I suffered from severe post-natal depression.

When we decided to try for baby number 2 , avoiding a repeat of the depression was foremost on my mind. I sought approval to continue with my meds which was indeed fortunate when we discovered I was pregnant with multiples. I used a low dose medication and counselling and aside from occasional fatigue and frustration, my depression is under control.

My personal mission is to be honest with as many other women about my experience of post natal depression, as is possible. Many are perhaps uncomfortable and some still don't "get it", but at least one has thanked me for my frankness and told me that it helped her recognise her symptoms and get the treament she needed.

Sorry this is getting long.... but with my medication (a very low daily dose) I am able to take such pleasure in my toddler twins. I could not manage the breastfeeding side of things so I applaud you for having breastfed yours.

My girls are exceedingly happy little bright people with no delays, the meds did far more good than harm for our family.

March 14, 2008 9:03 PM
 

Roper said:

Jaja's momma -- I'm so sorry you're struggling, and hope everyone's responses to your comment have been helpful. I'm sorry your partner isn't more supportive, but I hope you'll continue to reach out for help -- talk to your psychiatrist, your primary care doctor, or maybe even try talking to someone at your local La Leche League. They counsel women on breastfeeding, but can provide (free) support for a lot of issues new moms are going through. You can find your local chapter via lllusa.org.

I'd also be glad to address some of your other questions (as best I can) if you want to contact me privately through my Babble inbox. You need to set up a (free) Babble account, and then you should be able to send me a message. My username is Roper.

In the meantime, take good care of yourself. You will get through this!

Thanks again, everyone, for your comments. I can't tell you how much it means to know that this rings true for so many women (and is maybe even helping a few feel better.)

March 14, 2008 11:43 PM
 

GirlsGoneChild said:

Brilliant. You rock for sharing. And welcome back, lady. xo.

March 15, 2008 12:29 AM
 

Miranda said:

*standing ovation*

I just wanted to throw in some cheers for you.  You wrote a brave, level-headed blog on this and you need to take a few bows.

I'm not a mom, I've not been through this, but I have had my own struggles with depression. I fear that when I do eventually have a baby that I'll have many of same problems.  

Anything that helps get it out there and helps shake off the stigma is a fantastic thing.

March 15, 2008 1:18 AM
 

Miss Candy said:

Very glad you discussed post-weaning depression. I and several friends have experienced the same thing, but we were never warned about it as a phenomenon that happens to breastfeeding (nursing) mothers.

Otherwise, this post is terrific. Matches my experience perfectly.

My friend's mother calls it "intelligent women's syndrome".

March 15, 2008 8:17 AM
 

AmyE said:

You never know who you will help by telling this story.  When I was pregnant with my first child, a woman at a party told me about baby blues and I thought she was such a jerk.  However, when I went through it, it made me feel much better knowing somebody else had been through it.  My mother could relate, but she didn't tell me about it beforehand, perhaps hoping she would spare me by not having me think about it.

I went through full-blown PPD with my second child.  I was training to be a labor doula at the time, and still did not recognize anxiety as a symptom.  I went three weeks staight with no sleep.  I finally got an antidepressant and felt better within a week, even though they tell you it will take longer.  Maybe just knowing I had something to help was enough.  Or maybe the worst of it had run its course.  

In any case, I told all of my friends about this because I knew it would make them feel better if they went through it or they could tell any of their friends who went through it about me and it would make them feel better.

People who have not been through it or seen a loved one go through it may not understand, but the ones who do understand will appreciate your sharing your story.

Amy

Mom to 3 (Yes, I had another baby after that)

www.sofiabean.com

March 15, 2008 9:37 AM
 

Lila said:

Thank you so much for this blog!

I'm pregnant with my first and quit my antidepressant after 10 years (per OBGYN and psychiatrist's recommendation).  The "utter lack of happiness" totally describes where I'm at, but I thought I was being melodramatic.  After reading your blog I feel better about approaching the topic again with my doctors.

March 15, 2008 10:35 AM
 

Alastair said:

Jaja's momma - I'm glad you found a doctor you can talk this through with. It sounds like a serious discussion about meds is at least in order. Hopefully, your doctor/therapist will also point you to some good articles and research to learn some more on your own about depression and meds. That was a huge help to me when I first went through this.

Finally, it sounds like your partner is not being a help to you in this process, at least so far. You need to be surrounding yourself right now with people that support you and understand what you're going through. Don't let anyone - whatever their relationship - undermine the seriousness of how you're feeling.

March 16, 2008 9:53 PM
 

Lena said:

Wow. Look at all these comments. Jane, you really have no idea how many people you affect with each and every post. I was wondering if you were struggling b/c I could sense something in your posts of late (and it seemed like a few days would go by between posts). So, when I read this, it all made sense. I'm so glad you are feeling better - it really is important for our children to take care of ourselves, as hard as that can be at times. Bravo!

March 17, 2008 12:25 AM
 

Julia said:

Okay, so this post has further convinced me that:

1) I will basically BECOME you in x number of years (I am too lazy to do the math. But let's say it's only two years. For your ego. Even though that makes you pregnant at...you know what, you're older than me but not old, how's that)

1.5) HUZZAH. I will grow up to be awesome.

2) We need to totally talk sometime (for why see 1 and 1.5)

2.5) It should be before Sandy Island

2.75) Also, preferably before MY depression returns because then I won't want to talk about anything.

3) Elsa and Clio are The Cutest Babies Around. After they graduate from being that they will be The Coolest (Nicest?) Kids You Know and then they can walk around singing that song from Hairspray. It'll be epic.

March 17, 2008 3:37 AM
 

Tracey said:

Kudos to you, Jane! Depression is a bitch. I'm glad you're taking care of yourself, and without shame or excuses. I lost it when I was pregnant, my doc put me back on Wellbutrin and all was fine.

I haven't needed it since, but I'd take it again if necessary. Part of being a good parent is taking care of yourself. Women so often place themselves last and shrug off their own health, mental and physical. It's good to know that more women are on the ball.

March 17, 2008 10:25 AM
 

elmomma23 said:

Hello Everyone,

It's been a week since I last went on Babble but I just want to thank everyone for the amount of good advice you've offered to me via this page...it means more than you all know...I'll just update you that I went ahead & asked my doctor to prescribe me some meds & I'm going to pick it up at the pharmacy this week...also, I'm looking into seeing where I can join a post partum group nearby...

Again, thanks for reaching out & giving me that extra support via this forum...

Jaja's Momma

March 19, 2008 3:04 PM
 

Susie Felber said:

Yes I am late to this.  But this is a great post and a bold post.  I have goosebumps.  Although your story is not my story, I can relate in that we often gloss over things we can't or don't want to share -- important things.  So glad you are feeling better and you help people when you are brave enough to tell the whole truth.  Thanks for it. :)

April 4, 2008 10:40 AM

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