Baby Squared

Of Church-hopping and Child-ignoring

A while back, I wrote about how we might have found a Unitarian Universalist congregation that we'd like to join.  My background is Protestant, and Alastair is from a mixed marriage, Jewish and Protestant, and neither of us are particulary religious, but we like the idea of being a part of a spiritual community of some sort -- particularly for the girls' sake. We dig the vibe and values of the UU church, and Alastair has started getting more involved with the UU world through his music.

 

Unfortunately, we've become disenchanted with the church where we were testing the waters, and have started to shop around. This is the beauty of living in the Boston area -- there is a UU church in pretty much every town. Yesterday, we visited a new congregation, which we really liked. But since we're talking religion, can I make a confession? Easily 50% of my motivation for wanting to go to church these days is the free childcare. (If Unitarians believed in hell, I'm sure I would be headed there.)

 

Of course, this weekend I was definitely in the mood for some spiritual solace, too. The latest battle with the big D rages on unabated. Friday, I could literally barely get out of bed for most of the day. That is a new low for me -- the less said about it, the better. Saturday was not quite as bad, and by Sunday, I was obviously feeling functional enough to get out the door and go to a brand new church where I would (egad) have to make eye contact with people I didn't know. I was weepy during the service, but I attribute only half of that to depression, and half to the fact that the whole service focused on Obama's victory. Even the minister was getting choked up while reading excerpts from his election night speech.

 

But I'd be lying if I didn't admit that it was a beautiful thing to be able to drop the girls off in the church nursery -- for FREE! -- and relax and reflect for the next hour, knowing they were just steps away, in good hands. The nursery was full of toys, lots of other little kids and toddlers, and a few wonderful volunteers, most moms themselves, who welcomed the girls warmly and effectively distracted them as we left. 

 

As we walked up the stairs to the sanctuary, I said to Alastair, "Maybe we should just forget the service and go get some brunch." He said, "We should figure out what time all the different churches in a five mile radius have their services and stagger it so we just go from church to church all morning." I said we should think about going to a synagogue, too, so we'd get a break on Saturday mornings as well. 

 

All of which leads to the issue which, I suppose, is at the heart of this post: the strange contradiction of how much fun it is to be with our girls and yet, how difficult and tiring it can be, and what a relief it is to have a break.

 

I think the demands of looking after and entertaining the girls are, in part, why the weekends have been harder for me during this recent bout of depression. Monday through Thursday, I work the majority of the time, and just watch the girls on Wednesday afternoon. Thursday afternoon, the sitter comes. But Friday through Sunday, there's no structure and no sitter. It's just us and them and a whole lotta time to fill. Not to mention the many little weekend chores we need to get done. Add in rain or cold, and it's even harder.

 

We're going to try to add a little more structure in the coming months, as the weather deteriorates -- we're about to register for swim lessons, and I'm going to look into library storytimes, etc. Maybe a music class, if we can find one that's not too pricey. I'd even consider having the sitter come every Saturday or Sunday afternoon, but aside from the expense, I'd honestly just feel too guilty about it.

 

Is this just a twin parent thing? Or just a depressed twin parent thing? Do other folks out there simultaneously love and dread spending extended stretches of time with their toddlers? (And/or exploit religious institutions as a means of relief?) I never knew I could enjoy being a parent so much and at the same time so strongly crave time for myself. How on earth do you stay-at-home moms out there do it?

 

 

 

 Fancy hairdos courtesy of Adriana, our regular sitter. Third child (Marlie) courtesy of Megan and Charlie.

 


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Comments

 

EG said:

Wait, did two people named Megan and Charlie really name their child Marlie?  I mean, it's a cute name.  Just wondering.

No, it's not just a twin parent/ depressed parent thing.  I sing the praises of long naps and the church childcare on weekends, too.  Except that I don't really like our church so sometimes I just pray that my baby pager will go off so I can leave early.  Obviously, I don't live in Boston with tons of choices.

November 10, 2008 3:49 PM
 

CFJ said:

No, you are not alone in this.  I feel desperate about working and not seeing my son and then desperate for nap times/bedtimes when I'm home.  And then I feel guilty about craving nap times and bed time!  So there you go, a circle of misery.  

November 10, 2008 4:20 PM
 

Shannon said:

I grew up in the UU church and I loved it.  I would be there now if it weren't for my Protestant husband who just isn't comfortable with any alternatives.  So, instead, we go to no church at all.  

I quit my job recently and still have childcare 12 hours a week.  And I only have one kid.  But I do have depression, which brings me to ...

Now, as a person with depression, I hate, hate, HATE it when people say something like, "You should try such-and-such a drug, it worked for me," or, "Oh, nobody should ever take that drug because my sister had a bad reaction to it."  But anyway, I'm going to break my own rule and say that I recently started Deplin, which is not a drug but a prescription vitamin (folic acid) that is supposed to boost all SSRI medication.  (I am also on Prozac.)  I have to say, I kind of like it.  From what I've read online (and of course you have to take that all with a grain of salt) it has been good for other people, too.

November 10, 2008 4:23 PM
 

Liz said:

I'm right there with you on being home vs. time apart.  I'm home full-time with my kids, and even if I'm supposedly firing on all cylinders, it's really really hard and I'm desperate for breaks.  It's hard, because I obviously love my kids, so of course I feel guilty for wanting time away.  But it's still there.

November 10, 2008 4:29 PM
 

M said:

Yes!  I'm in the same boat- I feel guilty for being away from him, and then guilty for wanting a break when togetherness-time reaches its limits.  Obviously, I haven't figured out what to do about it, other than try not to worry too much.  He's happy most of the time, and I'm happy most of the time, so I suppose everybody's okay.  

What I haven't figured out is, how come my husband never seems to sweat this stuff?  It seems to be much easier for him (maybe for guys in general?) to skip to the "everybody's happy, don't worry about it" part.

November 10, 2008 4:32 PM
 

Heather said:

@ M: I think the reason why it's easier for guys is that our culture still sees mothers as the primary child-rearers. Fathers get lots of praise when they do step in and take care of the kids, and a total free pass when they step away to take time for themselves.  Mothers, on the other hand, are encouraged to feel guilty about being away from their kids --- indeed, encouraged to think that feeling guilty is part of being a good mom.  

But my view is that taking breaks from my kids helps me to be a good mom.

November 10, 2008 4:49 PM
 

Kiddos Mom said:

You are not alone. It is a constant battle over being "on" all the time and then feeling guilty when I get to go to the store by myself or just be "off" for a bit. I imagine twins are twice is hard.

Not to dwell on the big D, but am curious, have you had your thyroid checked?

November 10, 2008 4:56 PM
 

Emily said:

What a relief to hear other people go through the same thing!  We have one (only one!) child who is 18 mos. and we love being with him, but it's nearly impossible to get much done when we're home with him.  I think an ideal situation would be one 'free' day per week where I could do whatever I pleased (sleep, read an entire newspaper, eat meals out, do things around the house, etc.) I don't know how MOT or stay at home moms do it all.  We all just do the best we can and make sure our kid(s) know that we love them like crazy.  

November 10, 2008 5:09 PM
 

Suzy said:

My mother recently told me that when my brother and I were little that "driving down the highway without us in the car...felt like a vacation."  I laughed.  The church thing - it's totally normal.  My husband and I don't go to church, but when we visit my relatives they sometimes do...and we joke that we are going to drop the baby off in the church basement and hit the closest coffee hangout.  Sunday morning, good coffee, stacks of newspapers and no 10-month old crawling all over me - enough to turn anyone religious!  On the time away versus time on the home front...we both work (at least) 5 days a week in relatively high stress occupations (accounting and law)...and we just hired a babysitter over last weekend so that we could spend 4 hours cleaning and organizing our house without having to attend to the munchkin.  At first, we felt sort of guilty...but, really, if you get a babysitter every once in a blue moon to catch-up at home or catch a movie on the weekend - it's a nice break. Sometimes you just need a little time away to appreciate the time you have with kids.  

November 10, 2008 5:17 PM
 

T's mom said:

It's not just you. I'm a SAHM and lately I just need time for me. It's been hard here because we are preparing for a move from CA back to NH and so trying to make plans and pack while entertaining a grumpy, teething, separation anxiety filled toddler has been WAYYYYYY more than I can handle. Maybe I should look into the church service daycare!! My husband is working through the move so there's no break for me. At least once we are back in NH we'll have family around and the grandparents will happily give this crazy mommy a break. Don't feel guilty about it at all. You can love your children and still be happy when someone else is around to take the brunt of the entertaining off of you. Do what you need to do to kick the big D in the tuckus!

November 10, 2008 6:17 PM
 

SER said:

Just catching up on your blog -- I'm very sorry to hear about this latest bout of the big D.  It sounds as if you are doing all the right things.  Parenting is definitely hard, whatever version you do (SAHM, WOHM, part-time each, whatever) -- and when you need alone time more than ever, it's got to be brutal.  I am sending you lots of good vibes....

November 10, 2008 7:24 PM
 

MidLifeMama said:

I just blogged today about spending the day A.LONE. I took the day off but took Cooper to school. Bob was at work. It was me, the dogs and my ipod. Or not. Sometimes the sweet sound of NOTHING is perfect. I love my child, but I love me some down time.

You never talk about being on any medication. Are you trying to get through this without meds? Because in my experience, that is the hardest path of all.

November 10, 2008 7:50 PM
 

Rachel said:

Oh yes - I definitely feel the same way and have no idea how SAHMs do it.  Now that E. has given up her nap completely (she is 4), we have the WHOLE day in front of us.  

As for needing "me time," I think I am a much better mom when I'm home BECAUSE I am not home all the time (I work full-time).  But somehow when I AM home, all of the childcare and child entertainment falls to me, even if my husband is home, too.  (I think it has something to do with the fact that he is home during the week in the afternoon, so he really does need a break, and I am a much rarer commodity as far as our daughter is concerned.)  Unless I specifically have plans or ask him to "take a turn" so I can cook, clean, have five minutes of alone time, etc. (all of which inspires guilt), I seem to be the one who is on-duty.  It's not unusual for him to be reading a good book for two hours while I do craft projects and pretend to be a fairy (4 year old girls are fun).  The weekends are really my only time with our daughter, but after working all week I need some "me time," too, and I hate feeling guilty about it!

The only thing I will say is that it definitely gets a little easier when they get older.  Now that E. is 4, she can entertain herself and doesn't need constant supervision.  Sometimes I can even get away with checking my email or reading a magazine while she plays or colors.  :-)  But I definitely get tired and need breaks.

BTW - in case you were serious about the Saturday morning synagogue thing - they don't usually offer childcare.  :-(

November 10, 2008 8:05 PM
 

mombo said:

We do the Friday-Sunday thing too, and by Sundays, I'm a bit fried. And I only have one little one (plus one big one.) And the s***ty weather on its way is only going to make things more challenging.

Every day, they get a day older. They learn. They figure things out. My son spent a solid five minutes SCREAMING at the top of his lungs in the bathtub tonight just because it sounded cool. (I found myself screaming at one point, too.) Then when he was done, he put his arms around my knees and said, "I wuv oo." Total stinker. It mostly made the screaming OK though.

It's so ridiculously soon before they're in middle school and dealing with cuts in their mouths from trying to play the trumpet with new braces, and you're signing a permission slip for them to be allowed to watch Spiderman 3 for their Team Day. My daughter was literally just pretending to wash her tea set in the kitchen sink yesterday, and now she's reading the Twilight series and bugging me to give her MORE chores so she can earn Christmas money.

Cherish what you can, and realize that they will remember the good parts. You're a great mom.

November 10, 2008 8:35 PM
 

Roper said:

Shannon / Kiddos / MidLife -- I forget who asked what, but yes, I have had my thyroid checked a couple of times in the past and it seems to be fine. I take Prozac, and it's worked for me for years, but it seems like this year, all of a sudden it's not.

My doc raised my dose when I was depressed over the summer, and again a couple of weeks ago in response to this relapse. I'm hoping it will kick in soon. If not, we'll probably try something else. I fear I'm a case study in Prozac poopout.

The Folic acid supplement thing sounds like a good idea. I take a women's multivitamin every day, w. lots of B vitamins and folic acid, but the extra boost might be good. I hear Omega oil supplements can also help.

I'm getting acupuncture tomorrow, something I've had good (though temporary) results with in the past. If nothing else, it feels great just to lie quietly for an hour having someone work on healing you. And I swear I can feel the chi moving. I totally go to my happy place when there are small needles stuck in me. Heh.

November 10, 2008 8:58 PM
 

Roper said:

Oh, and EG -- yes, Marlie's parents really are Megan and Charlie. Sometimes we like to give them shit and call their daughter "Chegan."  They swear up and down that they didn't realize Marlie was a fusion of their names when they picked it.

November 10, 2008 8:59 PM
 

HL4HAND said:

You are so not alone in needing time alone.  I think EVERYONE feels the same way.  Hang in there.  What worked for me was having one night off that I could go away and not feel guilty about it.  I knit, so my knitting group became my salvation.

November 10, 2008 9:13 PM
 

Gwen said:

Since I'm also a mom of toddler twins, and one who struggles with depression, I have to say I totally feel the pain of long hours alone with them. I'm a SAHM, and today my husband had a meeting after work so I had them all day long alone. And I think this is the most fun age so far (18 mos) but I still get so drained. It takes so much energy, so much patience. And when the depression kicks in...it's ridiculous. Hang in there, hopefully you'll find some relief soon.

November 10, 2008 9:30 PM
 

betty said:

yep. need. break. i have two two-year-olds and i am with them all day every day. my break is an hour when my spouse gets home from work, before we put them to bed. i'm usually broken down by that point. but i love and adore them. did i mention that? they started school this fall, going two days a week for four hours (not free, like church though). it's a good time to grocery shop, clean, drive around alone in a quiet car. ah, a break. and i love them. a lot. did i mention that?

November 10, 2008 10:01 PM
 

Grace said:

Thanks to all the posters who help me feel less guilty!  Of course I adore my 14-month old, but I love the single afternoon of the week when I don't have to work and he's at day care...

November 10, 2008 10:45 PM
 

April said:

I am a full time stay at home mom of 17 month old twin boys and I am always on duty.  I definitely love my rare time off. I get to go to my Moms of Multiples meeting once a month and I get an occasional time away to shop alone or a girls night out or a weekend off when my mother takes them.  But I went the first year of their life only being away from them 3 times for more than a few hours.  Now thank goodness I get at least one free weekend a month maybe two if I am really lucky as I am getting this month! yaya!  

I just started going to church too and I go husbandless but I leave the boys in the nursery.  Just for one hour and I enjoy getting to worship in peace because I don't have much time for religious reflection at home.  

November 10, 2008 10:51 PM
 

Alyson said:

As a stay at home mom of twins, I'm right there with ya.  A day without plans and structure is a day that fills me with dread.  More and more I feel like Julie the Cruise Director, constantly trying to entertain them.  We get out of the house nearly every day, even if it's just to run some invented errands.  I can't imagine being home, alone, with them all day every day.  To me, weekends are a relief because that's when my husband is home and can pitch in on some book  reading and block stacking.  On Sundays, I go to church ALONE - one hour all to myself.  Surely that's worse than taking them to church with you???  I'm raising little heathens, and I don't care one bit!

November 10, 2008 10:57 PM
 

April said:

I will add that I am DREADING the winter months too!  My boys would live outside if you let them. They never want to come in and I don't know what I am going to do with them when it is too cold to go out. Pull my hair out probably....  Indoor playgrounds at our mall and the type you pay to go to like Chuck E cheeses are such germ factories in winter but I may have to take my chances.

November 10, 2008 11:08 PM
 

Verity said:

I find the weekends painful, too.  It's exhausting to try to balance "fun, relaxing, happy-childhood-memory-making family time" with the raft of tasks to accomplish in our precious few hours away from work.  And we always struggle with how much routine to impose and how much to just kick back and go with it.

I love your idea of church and synagogue hopping!  Our (Catholic) church has no childcare - we bring our kiddos into mass with us.  It makes church less of a break and more of an adventure.  There's no pressure to keep them quiet, but gosh, I think a free church daycare would really inspire me to get out of bed on Sunday mornings.

Hang in there.  Now that my firstborn is nearly four, it's amazing how often he doesn't want anything to do with me - and it's just beginning!

November 10, 2008 11:51 PM
 

Aunt Heidi said:

Although I am Aunt Heidi to Elsa and Clio, I am in fact Godmother to Marlie...and Jane is right...Megan and Charlie SWEAR they just thought it sounded like a great name...although I have my doubts about whether they really didn't know... ;-)

November 11, 2008 9:02 AM
 

Melissa said:

I work full time and I am really thankful for day care.  Michael gets to play and learn all day and I get to go to work, talk to adults and do something besides cater to his needs.  By the time I get home, even though I'm tired, I'm happy to see him.  And we get the weekends to hang out together.  The only problem with day care is that it's like having a second mortgage.  We are stuggling to pay it, yet we make too much to get any kind of assistance.

Even with day care, Marcus and I don't get any free time together.  We haven't gone to dinner or a movie together in ages.  We both miss that a lot.

November 11, 2008 9:26 AM
 

renee said:

A friend of mine growing up went to the UU church in Wellesley and is still active in it, I think.  They had an awesome rummage sale.

November 11, 2008 9:29 AM
 

snickollet said:

Oh, yeah. When I'm away, I can't wait to be with them. When I'm with them, I can't wait for a break. I think it's a universal parent thing, but twins/depression/single parenting, etc. can make any of the usual parenting things feel ever so much more acute.

I'm sorry things are so hard right now. Believe me, I can totally relate.

I've been meaning to shop around for a UU church, too, but when Sunday mornings roll around I always get lazy. Let me know where you guys are going if you want--maybe I'll join you. I'd love to know which area churches you've tried.

November 11, 2008 9:40 AM
 

Kate said:

SAHM here of two girls.  Yes it is very long and hard.  Things that help and that you shouldnt feel guilty about are:

1.  church, as youve mentioned

2.  mother's morning out programs at church (like a pre-pre-school that the toddlers go to one morning a week).  Allows you to do things like vacuum or cook without a child at your leg crying

3.  The Y.  omg, I LOVE LOVE our Y, where I can go and work out sans children.  They have a fully stocked and awesomely staffed play center for children which is FREE with your membership.  So everyone wins with the Y bc there is no greater motivation for working out than knowing that I can be alone with my cnn for an hour.

November 11, 2008 12:45 PM
 

Heide said:

Amen!  I talk about this with my mommy mentors (friends who've been moms longer than I have) a lot.  It's so hard not to feel guilty about it, too...  When I'm not with my kids, and I see other kids out in stores or whatever, it makes me want to rush home to be with them.  And then after 5 minutes I want to run away!  I'm on maternity leave right now, so it's especially rough.  But even when I'm working fulltime, it's just a cray jumble of conflicted feelings.  With a toddler, those weekends are looooong.

November 11, 2008 2:13 PM
 

Cara said:

I know what you mean.  When my husband is going to be out of town or has to work on the weekend then I make sure we have "stuff" to do.  If it is just going to the mall and letting the kids run around on the indoor play ground, so be it.  If I know that I have no where to go and will be stuck inside the house with the girls I have a feeling of doom and dread.  Since I am not a SAHM, I feel like I don't have what it takes to keep them engaged and entertained for long periods of time.  So, we are on the go.  We will go play for a bit, go visit the grandparents, come home and take a nap, and then maybe color, play with some play dough, or play dress up for a bit.  

Good luck!  I hope your funk lifts soon.

November 11, 2008 2:44 PM
 

Rebecca said:

My twin daughters are 2 and I've always said that my favorite days are the ones when I spend the least amount of time with them.  I'm horrible, I know.  But if they sleep later in the morning and take a good nap it's so much more enjoyable to be with them.  And it means that I had 2 hours of alone time during their nap to do things like read about other people's twins.

November 11, 2008 3:21 PM
 

SDM said:

Trust me, you weren't the only one tearing up at the sermon this Sunday--our UU minister offered up his own letter to Obama, one of thanks, hope and gentle prodding in the right direction--and they were just streaming down my cheeks.

I know you guys are in Arlington, but since you admit to be UU congregation hopping, I offer a hearty invitation to my UU church in Hingham if you ever find yourselves on the South Shore.  We are the Old Ship Church (aka the First Parish in Hingham)  oldshipchurch.org/index.html

and we do indeed have a nursery in the Parish House for the little 'uns.  We are also housed in the oldest building in America in continuous religious use (built in 1681), with deep roots in New England liberal theology, if you're at all a history buff like me.  But most important, we have just the most wonderful community (which is a "welcoming" one at that), and such a fabulous minister I can hardly find the right words.  After moving to Hingham a few years back, my husband and I really felt out of place (what with our left-leaning thinking in the middle of upper-middle-class "soccer-mom" land), until we joined the Old Ship.  We've met all sorts of like-minded folks, from the 80+ year old war protesters/community activists to young moms who volunteer at local organic farms, and everything in between.

Good luck with your search, wherever you end up, and welcome to the UU club!

November 11, 2008 4:49 PM
 

Julia said:

Forgive me if I'm wrong, because I've never ACTUALLY read the book, but isn't this whole baby time v. you time dilemma what The Feminine Mystique is about? I don't know, maybe the book will offer some insight to your problem, but I'd wager it's a highly personal balance that can't be prescribed by any text.

Now, forgive me for making an entire paragraph full of "duh" statements, but maybe the depression isn't totally chemical. I mean, it's been on and off since you had the girls, right? I mean, babies change a lot, especially in the crimping your social life department. I know this sounds totally like it shouldn't make any sense, but sometimes not doing anything makes you depressed, which ironically makes you not want to do anything, which just leads to a massive pile of suck. And I know it's hard (because it's hard for ME to do this and Elsa and Clio aren't actually my children) but maybe you've got to make a more concerted effort to take a break from the girls. See if it helps. It doesn't make you a bad mom to take personal time - because think about how totally unequipped you would be to be a responsible adult if you didn't. Of course, I say this like I have experience being a responsible adult, but let's just pretend that I know what I'm talking about for argument's sake, here.

November 11, 2008 6:11 PM
 

Kristin in Colorado said:

Jane - I love your stuff and read often.  Thanks for the laughs.  I am certain however that I was the first person to use the term "Chegan" in reference to Miss Marlie.  

November 12, 2008 3:29 PM
 

winecat said:

I know nothing about twin burnout but I do know about Prozac burn out.  It worked for years then it didn't.  Finally found the right combo of drugs that works for my type of depression. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you find the right drug soon because we both know depression SUCKS.

sending hugs and good thoughts your way

November 12, 2008 3:56 PM
 

Roper said:

Hey Kristin in Colorado. I've heard so much about you! Mostly how you call Marlie "Chegan." But I swear to you, Alastair and I came up with it independently, when we first heard about the name. Still, to give credit where credit is due, you were the ones who first had the guts to say it Megan and Charlie. And for that I applaud you.

And doesn't Megan totally look like Gollum?? ;-)

November 13, 2008 4:43 PM
 

Christine said:

Hi Jane-  I also battle with depression and I know how hard it is to get through those long days.  I have a nearly four-year-old & I work part-time.  Just heard that there may be lay-offs for part-timers, which I am half psyched about (baby #2 on the way) but dreading severely since I will be a SAHM at least temporarily.  There will be no ME time in sight.  Good luck with your nasty D and I hope you get the right combo of meds that help you!

November 14, 2008 4:17 PM

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