Baby Squared

Potty Girls

Last night marked a momentous occasion in the Baby Squared household: it was the first time that one of the girls (Elsa, namely) asked to sit on the potty and actually produced something!  We've had the potties (or "Bobby" as they used to be known) since the summer, and the girls have gone through little phases where they like sitting on them. Often, they'll say "sitty potty?" right as or after they are making a deposit in their diaper, and will go and sit down, diapers still on. We haven't tried to press the issue, because it hasn't seemed like they're quite ready yet.

 

Then, last night, as I was putting the girls to bed, Elsa started saying, "Elsa make a poopie! Sitty potty! Sitty potty!"  At first I thought it was just a ploy to delay bed time; we had friends over, and both girls were totally hyper and wound-up. But she was quite insistent. So I brought her into the bathroom, unzipped her sleeper, unsnapped the onesie, took off the diaper (jeez! so many damned layers!) and sat her on the potty, where she stayed for a few minutes, alternately saying "Elsa makey poopie" and pointing out various items in the bathroom. I didn't hear, see, or smell any evidence of actual poopie-making going on, so after a few minutes, I decided it was time for her to get up, get dressed, and go back to the crib. But when she stood up -- lo and behold! -- there was pee in the potty!

 

I can't tell you how exciting this was. And how utterly embarrassed I am by the fact that I was so excited. Who ever thought that seeing a little yellow puddle in the bowl of a plastic potty could inspire such joy? I starting hugging Elsa and telling her how great it was that she'd done this, and what a big girl she was, etc. etc. She still seemed to think she'd made poo-poo, not pee-pee ("Elsa makey poo poo in the potty!") but whatever. A technicality. The point is, she asked to sit on the potty and then made good on her intentions.

 

Since then, she has asked to go a few times, and I have dutifully obliged, thinking maybe she means it. But none of today's seated sojourns yielded any results. Still, I feel like this is a step in a good direction. At least she seems to get what's supposed to happen on the potty, and recognizes the feeling of needing to go -- even if we can't actually get her there in time. And maybe sometimes she doesn't need to go at all, she just wants to sit there on the pot. But that's cool too, right?

 

There is definitely a reason for this new potty-philia: the girls have looking at a lot of pro-potty propaganda over the past few days. I went to to the library and got out a a book about using the potty, plus an "Elmo's Potty Time" DVD. What the hell is it with toddlers and Elmo? He's like some kind of demi-god to them. The Oprah of the preschool set. No puppet should have that much power. But, of course, I totally exploited it: "do you guys want to sit on the potty just like Elmo does?" And I actually just bought an Elmo potty seat for the toilet, because Elsa always asks to go on the "big potty." Tonight before bed, she asked to "Go poo-poo on Elmo." Hmm....

 

As for Clio, she has also shown an increased interest in the potty of late -- and of course, what Elsa does, she wants to do, too -- but so far her zeal does not match her sister's. Interesting, since she was actually the first one to start announcing when she was about to move her small bowels, several months back. I suspect, though, that if one of the girls starts getting the hang of things earnest, then the other one will follow suit fairly quickly.

 

So...I don't know if this means we're actively potty training the girls or what. My instinct is just to follow their lead, and not push it. Ask them if they want to sit on the potty, let them sit if they ask. But there may be a point where we need to take a more proactive approach. Obviously, I haven't done a whole lot of research on the subject of potty-training (hey, if generations of parents have managed to toilet train their kids sans parenting manuals and the internets, how hard can it be?). On the other hand, the information I have seen hasn't tended to be very detailed. (Should you have them sit on the potty at regular times of the day? When should you start using pull-ups? Are rewards a good idea?) If you've got killer potty training tips, bring 'em on! 

 

Finally, my apologies for not including pictures with this post. It just doesn't seem appropriate. But I promise a plethora of photos next time.

 


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Comments

 

MommyAmy said:

CONGRATS ELSA!

I bet she was so proud of herself! :)

I'm looking forward to reading everyone's potty training tips as I'm sure I'll be in the same boat a few months from now.

January 16, 2009 9:23 PM
 

mama de marlie said:

hoorah!!!!

January 16, 2009 10:10 PM
 

April said:

"poopoo on Elmo" LOL!

January 16, 2009 10:18 PM
 

chochomom said:

Congrats! My son calls both things poo too. Whenever he wants to go potty he says poo, but rarely does a poo into the potty (most end up in the diaper). The Once Upon a Potty book really helped for us, that's what got him interested in going to the potty.

January 17, 2009 12:12 AM
 

Morgan S. said:

Ayayayay.  We, too, have the Elmo potty. My 24 month old daughter likes to sit on him for about 2 seconds and then flush the toilet.  Nothing has actually happened on the toilet, but I am not really pushing the subject.  

I do have to say we have tried one piece of "potty-phenilia" - a DVD of the Bear in the Big Blue House that was all about the potty.  This DVD was a hand me down -  we have never watched the show, but I thought I would give it a try.  It mainly consisted of the bear's mouse friend having to "go real bad" and then hanging out in the bathroom - a LOT.  There were horrible songs about the joys of pooping and peeing, but where they really lost me/grossed me out was when the little mouse commented that sometimes he liked to take a book in there with him because it can take awhile..... Uhhhh, my daughter is not Al Bundy with his newspaper, mmmkay?!  No thanks, Big Blue Bear!

January 17, 2009 12:51 AM
 

knockedup said:

When I worked at a daycare, I was in the 2 - 3s room.  We regularly sat them down on the potty, and had sticker charts for each kid.  I don't know if this is the best way, but it was something that was feasible with a group of 10 kids and 2 adults.  Most of the serious potty training that got results seemed to happen at home.  We were just reminding them that, yes, there's a potty, and it can be used.

My favorite part was the potty-related gossip.  If Melanie pooped in the potty, the other kids would all come to gaze in wonder, and then would discuss the pooping feat for the next few hours.  Poop is big news for toddlers.  It was hilarious.  

Go Elsa!

January 17, 2009 10:01 AM
 

Jon said:

Hi, Great twins blog!

we met your husband last night at Together in Motion (we have twin boys).  

We love reading about twin parenting experiences-- as you said, one baby/todder is a breeze, and two is not double the parenting, but parenting squared. (unfortunately we can't tell this to our single toddler parent friends!).

Cheers,

Jon

January 17, 2009 10:08 AM
 

Julia said:

My mom and I are pretty darn excited for Elsa. (My dad is too, somewhere deep, deep down. I think.) Huzzah! There is no greater joy, as far as I'm concerned, than a nice long date with your toilet and a National Geographic. (Is that too much information?) Robin would be excited, but mostly she was like "Oh, NO, this means when I babysit they're going to be doing that in-between thing, aren't they?" I have no idea what the "in-between thing" she's referring to is, or why it's so particularly awful (or more so than regularly changing diapers), but apparently it speaks of unknown horrors I can only dream of.

As far as photographs go, all I can say is as long as you stop short of this picture, you are fine. (I wonder about my parents sometimes. Really, I do.)

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January 17, 2009 1:10 PM
 

Alice said:

I'm not a parent, but a few things I've picked up as a child carer - if your kids are capable of going up stairs/steps like we do, rather than putting both feet on one step, then moving on the the next one, it's a good sign that their brains are developed enough to handle potty training.

Personally I don't much like training pants - I haven't seen any that toddlers can actually pull down enough to use like pants!  Most children I've worked respond really well to being able to wear "big girl/boy" underwear, and I think feeling uncomfortable after they have an accident is a good incentive for the child to realise what they should be doing!  Of course, when I was working in a nursery and you had two or more children potty trainning in underwear, it got a bit much at times, so I can understand wanting to put twins in training pants!

But following the child's lead is the best plan.  I worked with one child who wasn't potty trained at all.  Mum had a potty at home, but didn't push it.  When both noticed she was very interested in the potty and was letting us know when she needed changing, Mum decided to go for it and put her straight into underwear.  After a couple of accidents on the first day she got the hang of it and after a few days was going to the potty on her own.  

January 17, 2009 1:32 PM
 

steph said:

I worked in a pre-school where there were also younger children who were at this potty-transition age.

One interesting idea I picked up from that is that pull-ups aren't necessarily a good idea because with these super-absorbent nappies children don't "feel" wet and uncomfortable and therefore not always motivated to use the potty.

These kids, when they were showing signs of interest, were put in regular underpants underneath their nappy so they were better tuned into how it felt to be wet and uncomfortable.

Sounds a little mean, maybe, but when my baby's older that's what I'm going to try.

Also, when possible, just have undies without a nappy and deal with the consequences. This also helps the child become more responsible in the whole process.

Good luck!

January 17, 2009 1:40 PM
 

Zoe said:

We just let our dudes run around naked all the time and they use the potty 95% of the time (when naked) - though someone watered the sofa today when the bathroom door was closed!

They do not seem to get the concept of using underwear,  when they have to pee and have training pants on they just wet them. Though they have been very vocal about pooping on their mini thrones and will come and get me to undress them.

I try to be somewhat mellow about the whole thing - I am afraid if I act too agrivated about cleaning up puddles they will use it against me when they are mad....

I dont know where it's all going with them at 22 Months but I am just PRAYING it means they wont be in diapers forever.  

One scenerio where having twins might be super helpful potty peer pressure.

January 17, 2009 1:47 PM
 

Melissa said:

My kid is just not there yet.  We read potty books, which he loves.  Sometimes he'll sit, but nothing ever happens.  I really don't think he has the control yet.  If naked, he will just pee straight on the floor and looks just as suprised as I am.  One night I put him in training pants and it was the same deal.  Peed right through them and staring at the stream like, "Wha?"  He will sometimes tell me he pooped after the fact.  

He will turn 2 soon and may be moving to the 2-year-old class in day care, if they have room and if he is developmentally ready. They take them to the potty every 2 hours.  I'm not sure if he's physically ready for that yet, but he may surprise me.

January 17, 2009 4:55 PM
 

EG said:

We own the Elmo's Potty Time DVD.  My husband likes Elmo's dad.

Little Man is a few months behind the girls, but we got a potty recently to get him used to the idea.  We have friends with a 3-year-old boy and a boy Little Man's age.  The baby is almost potty-trained already, learning from his big brother.

Today they were over here and when Little Man saw the applause and M&M's for pottying, he sat on it.  Nothing happened "Done!  Treat!" but it's progress.

January 17, 2009 5:01 PM
 

Rachel said:

Yay Elsa!  Very exciting.

Evie started getting interested in the potty when two other girls in her daycare class wore big kid underpants with Dora on them.  She announced "I want to wear underpants" and so we tried it.  The first day, she peed through them in the playroom and FREAKED out, screaming "It falled out!  The pee falled out!"  (I guess she expected it to stay in, like with a diaper.)  After that, she insisted on diapers for a few more months, and we didn't push it.  We did have her walk around without pants for a week or so (only at home), and she always used the potty then - she just had to get used to it.  Then she asked to wear underpants again and did beautifully.

Poop was harder - we started rewarding her with a lollipop everytime she pooped on the potty and that worked well.  I have also heard that M&M's work, but chocolate makes Evie go haywire, so we just did dum-dums.

Good luck!

January 17, 2009 7:00 PM
 

Julie said:

My b/g twins are about to turn 4.  They showed no interest in potty training really until they were about 3.  We had two potty chairs and they liked to sit in them in their clothes for a while, then in just a diaper, then I got them to sit bare bottomed and we read special books that were just for potty sitting time, which took place after meals.  They were rewarded with a sticker to stick on their potty seat whenever they sat on the potty (even without anything actually going in the potty).  My son is so relaxed that eventually, pee and poop just came out.  My daughter is pretty uptight and would stress and fret about pushing something out so much that nothing would happen.  Then, after about a month of working on it, they both completely lost interest.  I mean completely - to the point where I actually found myself putting (okay, kind of forcing) one of them to sit on the potty when they didn't want to and I though, "Well, this isn't going to make them want to learn."  So, we gave it up and went back to diapers for 6 months.  Then, after we returned from a family vacation where they noticed that their much-older cousins didn't wear diapers and that their much-younger 2nd cousin did, they were done with diapers.  My son was completely trained within a month, and my daughter took about 2 months.  There were a LOT of accidents - I couldn't point to any piece of furniture or section of floor that hadn't been peed on and had sometimes washed out as many as 4 pairs of poopy underpants in a day.  I really thought I was going to go lose my freakin' shit (pun intended), but, I got through it.  I mean, it was seriously awful and frustrating and exhausting, but, just like the first three months with twin newborns, you survive.  To quote a Sesame Street song that just popped into my head:  It's a long hard road, but (you're) gonna get there.  

My advice would be to be very, very patient, let your child be the guide and buy cheap underpants that you won't mind throwing out if you just can't muster up the strength to wash out yet another pair of poopy undies.  Also, never let the fact that another kid you know who's the same age has been potty trained since they were 2 (or earlier).  Every kid is seriously different.  Finally, if your kid wants to read on the potty like Al Bundy, so be it.  Whatever works.

Good luck to Clio and Elsa!

P.S.  Try to enjoy the diaper phase and not having to enter every public restroom you encounter with two kids who are low to the ground and touch every toilet seat, flush handle, bathroom floor...bleh!

January 18, 2009 12:08 AM
 

Eva said:

That's a great start! S became interested in the potty just before turning 2... peed a couple of times there, then gave up a few months, and now is interested again and using it lots (my son, no interest at all still).

The daycare has the kids sit on the potty at regular diaper changing times. So we try to do the same, though slightly more frequently. We offer her to sit, she usually does, and sometimes it works. We try not to pressure as we don't want it to backfire.

We started pull-ups as a reward -- if you sit you get to wear a pull-up. Now we put on a pull-up in the morning and you get to keep it on until you wet it then it's a regular diaper. Not sure about this strategy. S really can pull it up/down, so it works for her. Plus, they now make some where you are supposed to feel when it's wet (in response to comments above) which might address some of those issues.

We do stickers for peeing. Lots of people I know do M&Ms, but I didn't want to link food as a reward that way. The stickers are motivating at our house.

S has memorized the book "A potty for me" by Karen Katz. Today when she wet her diaper she actually quoted it: "I peed my pants but Mom says, that's okay."

Good luck -- and try not to get frustrated if you take steps back before moving forward, as with all parenting things!

January 18, 2009 12:33 AM
 

Leslie said:

Twin mommy of two fraternal boys (2.5 y.o.) here. We're taking the relaxed approach to potty training too. I'm not a huge fan of rewards systems for kids, but I must say that the sticker chart has worked pretty well with one of my guys on this particular developmental milestone, though his interest still waxes and wanes. They both started talking about the potty long before their first birthday, but that seemed way too early to me to do much of anything about it (though I did visit my local library and check out every possible book I could find on "early" potty training, better known as "elimination communication"). Some helpful stuff in there for sure, especially the ideas about using signs and sounds to facilitate communication with the kids, but going cold turkey EC just wasn't a good fit for our family. We, of course, include all the classic books in our regular storybook rotation: Once Upon A Potty, The Gas We Pass, Everybody Poops... I'm sure you're familiar with the list. That seems to help normalize the topic... for all of us. The other thing that has moved us forward is good old-fashioned modelling. Now, I know that not everyone would be comfortable with this idea, but both my husband and I leave the door open when we go to the bathroom -- not every time of course -- but when the boys are around and inerested in what we're doing... or we just invite them in. They get to talk to us about it, look in the potty when we're done, put the seat down, flush, wash hands with us, etc. Moreover, a few months ago when we were trying to get them to try peeing in a little training potty standing up (why not, right?), they each had a turn to try, then one of them said, "Daddy's turn!" and of course the chorus of "Daddy's turn! Daddy's turn!" began immediately. My husband looked horror stricken, naturally, and just looked at me with a pleading sort of look... but I just shrugged my shoulders and said, "Daddy's turn!" At which point the poor guy had no choice... Suffice it to say that from that instant on, BOTH of my kids pee standing up in the training potties any and every time they are asked to do so. They apparently just needed someone to show them what to do... So if I had to share a magic bullet, that would have to be it. (And, I will graciously spare you the details of what happens when it's "Mommy's turn!")

Happy potty training!

January 18, 2009 3:06 PM
 

Fran said:

oh my! One of my twin girls did a poop on the toilet just before the bath tonight. She told me she was going to and got the look on her face and my Dh sat her on and she just did it like it was the most normal thing ever and it was her first time.........

She looked so small sat on the big toilet too LOL. Then she flushed it away and laughed......

Do you think potty training twins is going to be fun!!!

My girls are 28 months now and I just found your blog and can so relate to it ALLLLLLLLL

repeat after me......

Multiple mummies are marvellous.......

January 18, 2009 5:22 PM
 

Tencie said:

Way to go Elsa!

maybe once elsa gets the hang of it maybe clio will follow suit.

reading that just got me thinking about when i have to go through that phase with jayshawn. so do i teach him to sit first? or get my boyfriend to teach him to stand? he is 9 months now so i got time but i still wonder.........

January 19, 2009 3:35 PM
 

Suzanne said:

My advice is to start a simple schedule with them. (Or with one if one is more interested.) Phase 1-Just start by taking them to the potty after meals and at bath time. Do this for a while, until they are used to it. If they start "producing" at those times, and start asking to go to the potty at other times by themselves and actually pee/poop, then you are ready to get serious about it . Phase 2-When you are pretty sure they're ready - take a weekend when you are not going anywhere and put them in underwear full time (except at nap and at bedtime.) Remind them often, like every half hour about the potty, and even if they have an accident, keep them in (fresh)underwear. You have to be committed to it, but they will get the hang of it quickly. We did this "potty weekend" with both of our boys when we thought they were ready (around 2-1/2) and they were pretty much trained within a week. But your girls may be ready younger, since they seem interested already. Good luck. Beginning potty training is tough, but you can't believe how good it will feel once you're diaper-free!

January 20, 2009 8:46 AM
 

Jennifer said:

My potty training advice is similar to Suzanne's.  My girls started showing an interest at 18 months, but when the novelty wore off they decided they were fine with diapers.  I brought the potties back out after they turned 2 and they would use them before nap/bedtime and after baths.  After a while I started putting them in Pull Ups but they seemed to treat them the same as diapers.  One time my older daughter said 'pee pee ok - pull up on'.  So one day I just moved them both to underwear and we had a few accidents each day but after a week they were done.  They still wear a diaper at nap and bedtime, but that's fine with me.  I think it's best not to push it but once you know they're ready you just need to give them a little nudge.  One of the signs that they're ready is their ability to pull their pants up and down.  All in all, the process wasn't nearly as hard as I expected.  Good luck!

January 21, 2009 2:40 PM

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