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Tropic Thunder: Have They Gone Too Far?

Posted by Whit Honea

 

Tropic Thunder stars some of our favorite celebrity dads: Ben Stiller, Jack Black, Robert Downey, Jr., and Tom Cruise, and it opens on Friday.  It is already pissing people off.  

Apparently the film makes a lot of fun at issues that some find taboo.  The majority of complaints are coming from the various groups that represent people with mental disabilities.  Dozens of people from these organizations picketed the premiere of Tropic Thunder.

The movie is about a group of Hollywood actors that blur the lines between fiction and reality.  The actors themselves are characterized as stereotypes and many of their actions are unthinkable- it's a comedy.

The uproar stems from a movie within the movie in which Stiller's character has portrayed a mentally disabled person in order to achieve Oscar consideration, spoofing the likes of Rain Man, I am Sam and Radio, to name a few. Their handling of the subject matter and the wordage used to describe the character isn't PC, and for better or worse, such things are no longer deemed acceptable, not even in a comedy.

A Dreamworks representative says, "We have had productive discussions with representatives of disability advocacy organizations and look forward to working with them closely in the future. However no changes or cuts to the film will be made.

"Tropic Thunder is an R-rated comedy that satirizes Hollywood and its excesses, and makes its point by featuring inappropriate and over-the-top characters in ridiculous situations. The film is in no way meant to disparage or harm the image of individuals with disabilities."

I'm torn on such things.  On a personal level, the one I teach my children, I am 100% against discrimination against anyone based on anything (within reason), but as a whole I'm sick of America being handled with PC gloves.  I prefer a society with a backbone, not hurt feelings and lawsuits (the favorite pastime out here in CA).

I like a little offense in my comedy. I get what Stiller is doing and it sounds funny. I want to laugh at something because it is absurd and ridiculous- things I know better than.  Unfortunately, not everyone does know better and often the result of such comedy is that it carries out of the theater and into the daily scheme of things.  It's a catch-22.

What do you think?

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Comments

 

Amelia said:

I think you drive really slow in the ultra-fast lane, while people behind you are going insane. You use public toilets and piss on the seat, and walk around in the summer time sayin', "How about this heat?" And sometimes you park in the handicapped spaces, while handicapped people make handicapped faces.

Don't you now, Mr. Honey, hmmm?

:)

August 12, 2008 8:26 PM
 

km said:

Geez, we can't make fun of anything anymore.  I moved to the west coast from NY--apparently sarcasm didn't make it across the Rockies.  I can tell someone they are a f-ing d-bag here and they think it's the funniest thing ever.

Screw that.  Comedy can be crude and offensive and, one might argue, it should be.  Why do we have to be nice all the time?

August 12, 2008 11:31 PM
 

dgnfly said:

While I enjoyed "The Ringer" mainly since those with special needs had roles in the film, I think Ben Stiller crossed the line with this film.

August 13, 2008 12:53 AM
 

Sassy Smith said:

I like my comedy with a little sarcasm, mixed with a touch of crude and a dash of ridiculous. I'll probably watch this movie and laugh my ass off. ;)

August 13, 2008 1:20 AM
 

bean said:

It sounds like it's going to be quite funny.  

It's just a movie - if someone thinks they will find it offensive, DON'T GO SEE IT.

August 13, 2008 9:38 AM
 

beth Nixon said:

"Unfortunately, not everyone does know better and often the result of such comedy is that it carries out of the theater and into the daily scheme of things."

This is where you nailed it.  Yes, parts may be funny. However, I don't find disparaging the mentally retarded for a laugh funny.  

But because it's in a hollywood movie, starring big names and names we all love, people will think it's acceptable humor.

I do get the over-the-top, ridiculous stereo-type humor of this movie.  But they cross a line when they mock the mentally retarded.

August 13, 2008 4:14 PM
 

pama said:

I agree, Beth.  I laugh with the next person at mocking comedy.  However, trying to get a laugh at the expense of the mentally disabled shows how desperate a comedian is for a laugh.  And desperation is never funny.

August 14, 2008 9:30 PM
 

Trish said:

I do not plan to see it.Just like when something is on TV  I don't agree with ,I change channels. There are those that do see this that will not leave, without taking the movie with them and the R word.We all like a good laugh ,but not when it comes to those's less fortunate .I hope none of you ever have a mentally challenge child .Remember one out of every five children are born with autism.One does not have to be born  mentally challenged to become that.How about the child that is hit by a car and will never be pass an three year old, or the child that was in an car accident, the young motor cycles...I could go on and on. I have an daughter born Down Syndrome. I have been there when someone uses the R word and seen tears run down her face. Once someone ask her what she wanted to be ,her answer ,"Happy",then asked what she didn't want to be ,her answer "I never want to be normal ,because normal means being mean ,saying mean things.....you all have proven her right.

August 16, 2008 6:26 PM
 

movie junkie said:

Ben Stiller would interpret the offenses of any special interest group as a compliment

August 26, 2008 5:40 PM

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