FameCrawler

Wow... That. Is. Special.

And so it begins.......

So what! This is ridiculous, even if it was true!

If it's not true, then she was incredibly reckless to take a flight when after her water broke, with a high-risk (premature) birth and a disabled baby.  People (babies or mothers) will  die if they think this is an ok thing to do.  Merely from a public health perspective, it's atrocious behavior on the part of a governor.  Someone could have died.

If the rumor is false, she told countless lies to countless people and used the falsehoods to bolster her political career.  How could you ever believe a thing she said after she told so many outright lies repeatedly over months, and to this day?

Love the honesty!!! who flies when there in labor!!??  GET REAL!!! daughters an undercover whore!!!

You are all idiots grasping for straws.  Check this link out.  End of story.

72.14.205.104/search

Oh goody, a nice spooky story!  Totally think it is true. The "mono" excuse is used by every teen mom in the south honey.  Any 44 year old woman having a special needs child would tell her staff right away in case she had to be whisked off to the hospital or something.  She is NOT pregnant in those photos, old ladies show fast and sow a LOT.  I am filled with glee over this story!  

Let the public vetting of Sarah Palin begin. Something McCain's team seems to have forgotten to do.  Let's also look into the issue of her unelected husband participating in official meetings, interfering with staff issues, and being copied on official emails that are now censored due to "executive privilege".

Truthperson - you are the idiot. In that pic from the right wing Hoover Institute, Palin is wearing a roomy suit - perhaps with gullible people like you in mind who could help her turn her teen daughter's trauma into political gain.  Look at: 1. the pic of her on Super Tuesday in a figure fitting brown jump suit. 2. The fact that her daughter was out of school for five months with "mono" during the pregnancy.  3. The fact that her own staff was shocked at the 12th-hour announcement of the blessed event - and of course, 4. the good mother giving her speech and climbing aboard a plane for a 12 hour flight when Bristol's - I mean - her "water broke."  McCain sure knows how to pick them!

It reflects good on her but it reflects bad on Mccain and his vetting and his recklessness. He is nit suited for the office of POTUS

Truthperson, can you furnish us a link to a photo taken from the front at that speech?  Any woman wearing a long unbuttoned jacket will find it draping open like that.  Breasts have a way of doing such things.  

The problem with this rumor is that it's total horseshit.

There are in fact several photos of the pregnant Palin. There are also photos of Palin in which she does not look pregnant; conspiciously, though, neither does Palin's daughter.

It's a sign of the chaos into which McCain's surprise choice has thrown Obama supporters that such absurd straws are being grasped. As the afterglow of Palin's selection wears off, Democrats will come to there senses and realize that this sort of silliness can only alienate women voters. It plays into McCain's very hands.

Paul M - Where then, in fact, are they?

This rumor should be laid to rest one way or the other.

This is classic Sarah Palin.  Here's our governor.  Deny, Deny, Deny, Deceive.  Gotta love her--at least she looks real purdy...  

Please check facts before spreading rumors....on the facts around the birth of her son:

Sarah, 44, had her water unexpectedly break (just a slow leak of amniotic fluid, she shared) while attending an energy conference in Texas, but checked in with her doctor, was able to stay, deliver a 30 minute speech, and then get on a plane to return to her home state in time for the delivery (which ended up needing to be induced) early this morning.

   I am not a glutton for pain and punishment. I would have never wanted to travel had I been fully engaged in labor.  After four kids I knew what labor felt like, and I wasn't in labor.

www.celebrity-babies.com/.../alaskan-governo.html

Guilty until proven innocent it seems. How about more than an interesting assumption before we crucify her?

The McCain team never vetted Palin. She was too low on the list and an unlikely candidate. Spontaneous Johnny jumped the gun with Palin to lay a coup on Obama's highly successful convention. He never gave his team a chance, and now this irrational choice is beginning to bite him in the arse. I think the rumor is true, but even if it isn't Palin has to answer for some irresponsible choices that put her baby at risk. In time, the truth will be uncovered. Further rumor has it that The National Enquirer is hot on the trail of this story in the making. Again, either way it goes this one spells disaster for McStupid.

I think this could be answered by the young man involved in an accident (possibly) turning into Family Medicine of Alaska (familymedicineofalaska.com) when the pregnancy would have been 6 months along.

Here's the police report:

Wasilla Police Department

On February 8, 2008, at 1737 hours, Wasilla Police responded to two vehicle collision at Seward Meridian Parkway and Fireweed Drive . Investigation revealed that Bristol Palin, age 17 of Wasilla, was driving a 4-door sedan and attempted to turn into a business when she struck a 2-door sedan driven by Joshua Moffet, age 19, of Wasilla. Palin was issued a citation for Failing to Use Due Care to Avoid a Collision. Moffet was issued a citation for an expired registration and no proof of insurance.

Bristol name has been scrubbed from the report but here is the source:

www.frontiersman.com/.../doc47b15d2cb6df0732991573.txt

Josh Moffet would be able to state whether Bristol was pregnant since I'm sure the police and the hospital are going to be keeping extremely quiet with all that is on the line, but it would also be worth questioning the officer at the scene.

At this point the story is only hearsay and I just want to know the truth. The woman could very possibly be the president of the United States and it would be extremely irresponsible not to do basic research into the matter. It has nothing to do with the child itself only the actions of Sarah Palin.

It is extremely suspicious at the very least that she took an eleven hour flight from Texas back to Alaska, while in labor, to deliver at a hospital closer to her home town of Wasilla than Anchorage.

cache.daylife.com/.../340x.jpg

This is an article, Alaska newspaper, from March '08 shows a pic of the beautiful PREGNANT Sarah Palin.

community.adn.com/.../118874

Another ugly election, with conservatives polarizing everyone to hate.

Palin is a bad choice.

If old dying McCain dies, I would not want this uptight nobody in power.

here is another pic of Palin pregnant from March 15th 2008.

alaskareport.com/.../z49194_republican_convention.htm

I went to the sight Truthperson, I have seen the picture. This is a Desperate Housewives pregnancy, a pillow!!!!!

Another little bit more to the rumor. Friend of my hairstylist is the person who processes insurance for the Valley Hospital in Wasilla, Alaska. She claims that the baby was not covered on Palin insurance at birth, but was covered on the baby wellness checkup!!!! Why would that be???

If the above picture is really of Governor Palin at approximately seven months pregnant and her six pound baby was born one month early, she deserves a round of applause for keeping her weight down.  She must have blown up in that eight month.

I think this is what happens when a small-town story suddenly goes very, very public with little lag time.  But here's the thing: no matter what, even if it's true, then there really is no downside to the story.  No matter what way you dice this, Sarah Palin is a woman who chose to raise a Down's Syndrome baby, and that is a tough and admirable task.

Scenario one is that this whole thing is coincidence, and Trig is her son.  Scenario two is that the baby's Bristol's, and that her parents knew all along, pulled her out of school and arranged to appear to be the parents from day one.  Scenario three, which seems the most likely to me?  Trig Palin is Bristol Palin's baby; she had arranged to have him privately adopted, but the chromosomal tests suddenly turned up Down's Syndrome and the adoption fell through.  Faced with the knowledge that a Down's baby is far harder to place, the entire Palin family decided to go to plan B and suddenly announce Sarah's pregnancy, move the due date out a month to explain her not showing, and ensure Sarah was in the state when Bristol gave birth.

But even if that last scenario is the one that actually occurred, I don't see this reflecting badly on the Governor.  Older women taking on the children of immature girls is a tried-and-true pattern in history, as is keeping it a family secret.  And again: no matter how this happened, Sarah Palin and her husband knowingly brought a Down's Syndrome baby into their family.  

While this is a curiosity, it's not something to be pursued for political gain.  There is no bonus to prying into this family situation, and no fraud either -- Palin only took 3 days of maternity leave, so any fraud is more along the lines of people feeling misled.  And given I think a huge percentage of parents would do the same as the Palins are alleged to have done, it would be sympathetic at most.

Totally awesome story. No way she would have flown after her water broke; not buying it! Of course, any "pregnant" photos of Palin could have been faked; the non-pregnant ones like you posted speak volumes. (That small with a fifth child? Don't think so!!)

Wendy Isbell said:

"Another little bit more to the rumor. Friend of my hairstylist is the person who processes insurance for the Valley Hospital in Wasilla, Alaska. She claims that the baby was not covered on Palin insurance at birth, but was covered on the baby wellness checkup!!!! Why would that be???"

1st off, your "story" holds no water.  This would violate HIPPA law and your freind's insurance person's sister-in-law's mother's cousin would be in HUGE trouble for discussing this with ANYONE.

2nd, look at the 2nd pic from March 15th.  Her face is a little chubby, very common for women who are in their 3rd trimester.

It's clear that Bristol was pregnant. Look at the baby bump! There is no question about it!!

Look at her oldest daughter!  Do you guys really think that that's a food baby under that little green sweater?  There's no way that she can have that fat of a belly with skinny little arms like that.  Come on, people!  And look at her expression: everyone's showing teeth accept her.  Hrmmm. . . looks guilty to me.  Just my opinion.  

Just because she maybe looks pregnant in a couple of pictures linked above, doesn't necessarily mean that it must be true. In an effort to hide her daughter's pregnancy and pass it off as her own, she easily could've worn an undergarment suit such as this: realityworks.com/.../index.html

Another pic of Palin pregnant.

progressivealaska.blogspot.com/.../dillons-february-26-palin-pic.html

from March 6th,2008

Most of all, as an anti-abortion executive, she would make the private lives and pregnancy decisions of every other woman in America a public matter potentially enforcable by jailtime. This obviates any claim to her own pregnancy decisions being accorded any privacy respect. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.

It's really true that a lie flies around the world twice while the truth is still getting its pant on.

1.  The picutre at the top of the page was taken in 2006.  Governor Palin's baby was born in 2008.  Did everyone spreading this rumor flunk Health Science in high school?  Or haven't they taken that yet?

2.  There are witnesses and photos showing Ms. Palin was pregnant this year.  Here's a travel blog entry from April 2008 where the author mentions she met the Governor at an airport this year and that she looked pregnant to her:

www.polartrec.com/.../3944

3.  Daily KOS posters started this rumor.  Their reputation for truthfulness and accuracy took a serious hit a couple of weeks back when they accused McCain of stealing his war story about a guard flashing him the Sign of the Cross one night.  "McChimpHitlerSlime stole that story from Solzenetzyn!" they thundered.  Got the left side of the blogosphere all riled up for 2-3 days.  Only...when Solzenetzyn's biographer got wind of it he pointed out that there was no mention of that story in <i>Gulag Archipeligo</i> nor any of his other published works.  

The KOS Kiddies have a bad reputation for shooting from the lip and making themselves (and anyone who pays attention to them) look stupid.

The photo at the top is from 2006.  See Anchorage Daily News site, where they have a slideshow with that photo stating it is from that year.  So be very careful with the facts.  That said, there is still something fishy about this deal.  Follow the bouncing ball very carefully, everyone.

i have to agree that is seems very suspect. too many "coincidences" to the story, and no real convincing photographic evidence to support her being pregnant. i have 3 children of my own, and i can assure you....once you get to the 3rd...much less the 5th... you don't "gain it all at the end". you start showing VERY early. so, i'm leaning more towards the notion of a Desperate Housewives pregnancy. and the scenarios set forth by a previous poster (Grace) seem quite logical regarding what the original plan could have been. besides, given her anti-abortion stance...what else was she supposed to do?

The baby is not a down-syndrome,,,,it is half Eskimo and saying that covers the case--from all angles...!

She was already under investigation for abuse of power involving her in-laws when McCain picked her! Now this! This came up way too fast to be made up out of whole cloth. Too many photos and a bunch of stories that don't add up are hitting. The flames are not showing yet but there's plenty of black smoke coming out of this story.

"Troopergate"...ha.  The guy she fired held appointive office, which means that as governor she could have fired him for wearing a tie with a greasy spot on it to work.  He was offered a transfer to another department at the same pay and turned it down.  There really isn't much "there" to "there" with this.

paul m - yeah...alienate women voters.  gee, you right wing guys really are still that sexist, huh?  my god, you guys say this crap as if women all have i.q.'s below 100.  

my 1st reaction to seeing headline "mccain picks female vp" was "that f'ing bast**d mccain thinks women are idiots!"  and since then, i've come across COUNTLESS comments like yours, blatantly admitting you think the bulk of women are that gullible.  my god, do you think most of us are illiterate, as well?  or that everyone on the internet is actually a male, or anne coulter?  

as far as this rumor:  i'm not a huge fan of political rumors.  but, as the right has slung mud since day 1, my frustration level makes me not care so much if liberals take up the same tactics.

before i even knew it was a rumor, i was shocked at the story of the water breaking, finishing the speech, the long plane ride, car ride to the hospital.  i found that odd before knowing others did as well.

if it's true, i'm disgusted for 2 reasons:  that in this day & age, young women are still made to feel shame for having sex.  yes, i don't think a teen girl should have a baby.  but, teens have sex.  they always have, they always will.  boys get congratulated, girls get shame if they end up with proof of their sexual activity.  

also, if this is true, i am beyond disgusted that they'd use this disabled child as the poster child for anti-abortion.  if the story is a lie, if trig is actually sarah's grandson - to use him to try to turn your religious beliefs into law, wow - i have a feeling her God wouldn't quite approve of any of these lies.

oh geez im pregnant with my 3rd surviving, nd am 4 months.  im smaller this time than i was with my first  AND second at 3 months.  she could very well have been small.  

trig was born april 19 2008, one month premature.

this photo was from an article dated march 7 2008.

SOMEONE was then 6.5 months pregnant.

looks pretty clearly like bristol to me:

www.adn.com/.../339587.html

any proof this photo was from 2006?? doesn't seem so.

looks like mccain needs a new vp.

This can't be true. Looking at the age of the youngest daughter in the family picture, this picture has to be at least two years old. Which means Bristol Palin has a little bit of a belly but wouldn't be pregnant anyway.

And, I can't believe no one's mentioned this... Down syndrome babies are almost ALWAYS had by older mothers. For a girl Bristol's age, the odds of a Down syndrome baby are 1 in 1562, but for a woman Gov. Palin's age, the odds go way up to 1 in 19. Just based off that, it's hard to believe that this baby would be born to a younger mother than an older mother.

And plus this woman's the Governor of Alaska. If this gigantic switch happened, tons of doctors would have to know about it... any doctor who saw Bristol Palin pregnant, in labor, etc. The hospital would have had Trig listed as Bristol's baby, and so if this was true, there would have been a ton more witnesses and information, not just a "rumor" that doesn't seem to have any real origins.

Orion seems to believe that the Solzhenitsyn biographer's statement somehow debunked the DailyKos posting. Not true. The posting quoted this:

"Alexander Solzhenitsyn, the Russian author who spent many years in the gulag of Siberia, bears witness to the power of the cross. After long suffering in the work camp of Siberia, he fell into despair. Like other prisoners, he had worked in the fields day after day, in rain and sun, during summer and winter. His days were filled with backbreaking labor and slow starvation. On a particular day, the hopelessness of his situation became too much. He saw no reason to continue living, to continue fighting the system. He thought that the rest of his life was meaningless since he would most likely die in this Siberian prison. His life made no difference in the world. So he gave up.

Laying his shovel on the ground, he slowly walked to a crude work-site bench and sat down. He knew that at any moment a guard would order him to stand up, and when he failed to respond, the guard would beat him to death, probably with his own shovel. He had seen it happen to many other prisoners.

As he waited, head down, he felt a presence. Slowly, he lifted his eyes and saw a skinny, old prisoner squat down next to him. The man said nothing. Instead, he drew a stick through the ground at Solzhenitsyn’s feet, tracing the sign of the Cross. The man then got back up and returned to his work.

As Solzhenitsyn stared at the sign of the Cross, his entire perspective changed. He knew that he was only one man against the all-powerful Soviet empire. Yet in that moment, he knew that there was something greater than the evil that he saw in the prison, something greater than the Soviet Union. He knew that the hope of all mankind was represented in that simple Cross. And through the power of the Cross, anything was possible.

Solzhenitsyn slowly got up, picked up his shovel, and went back to work. Nothing outward had changed, but inside, he received hope."

It's from:

incommunion.org/.../the-sign-of-the-cross

And has been repeated many times in other publications, making it very easy for McCain to have incorporated the story into his "memories."

But hey, maybe the author, Father Luke Veronis, was like McCain and just made up the whole story.

NEWSFLASH:

"80 percent of babies with Down's syndrome are born to mothers under 35."

TRUTH.

general-medicine.jwatch.org/.../2

www.kidsource.com/.../babies.down.pn.html

www.bellaonline.com/.../art32534.asp

caption of photo dated march 9, 2008:

"Sarah Palin at home with her family in Wasilla. From left is Piper, 5; husband, Todd; Willow, 12; and at right is Bristol, 16. Not pictured is Palin's son, Track, 17."

looks like a five year old on the left to me. and bristol definitely looks 6.5 months pregnant on the right.

www.adn.com/.../339587.html

also, fyi, "80 percent of babies with Down's syndrome are born to mothers under 35."

www.bellaonline.com/.../art32534.asp

Thank you all for helping me prove my argument that the economy isn't that bad.  If you all have the time and resouces to sit around and speculate on this clearly fabricated story, then you all are doing JUST FINE!!

Get lives!  Seriously - some of you claim to be mothers of several children.  You must have something better to do with your time?!?!?

watch the video i found this morning of the governor "hiking" to work back in Feb of this year...just a little bit shy of two months before Trig was born.

correction re: timeline:

the photo was posted online march 9, 2008 (so it was probably taken up to a week prior).

trig was born april 19 2008, one month premature.

so bristol/sarah would have been ~6-6.5 months pregnant in it, give or take about a week.

which one more looks it to you?

You have to be real idiots to believe this crap.  No wonder you all have "baby head" avatars.  

lmao @ darren.

also keep in mind these rumors started in alaska DURING her pregnancy. it's nothing new, this is just what happens when you don't vet.

maverick = moron

Yeah, the Bristol picture is from 2006.

www.adn.com/.../509850.html

QED

Look at the photo taken at the speech.  She sure looks pregnant.

We have a 40 year old woman at work who is pregnant and barely shows at 6 months.  She is still hot!!!

She Does look pregnant In Video Hers face  Shows it most. Look at pictures off her Now Also look up Article in Boston globe . Tells about her finding out about down syndrome when she was 4 months pregnant and facts that over 40 women are more likely to have children with this . Her hubby is a fisherman that alone gets my vote

Her character needs to be determined for the good of this country. She could be making decisions on war, nuclear conflict, diplomacy, etc because of McCain's pick. Maybe you can cover-up something like this in Alaska, but the same is not true on the national stage. Is she a total phony and liar? Time will tell. Let the National Enquirer get to the bottom of this VERY important story. I am inclined to believe it given there is so much evidence for it and the fact that if it were false, the would be a ton of evidence to prove it is false.

This is not a new story.  Still not proven!  BTW the Lyda Green is the person that was called a B**** while Palin laughed. (youtube)

The following is from an Anchorage Daily News article dated March 6th.

That the pregnancy is so advanced astonished all who heard the news. The governor, a runner who's always been trim, simply doesn't look pregnant.

Even close members of her staff said they only learned this week their boss was expecting.

"I thought it was becoming obvious," Palin said. "You know, clothes getting snugger and snugger."

But people just couldn't believe the news.

"Really? No!" said Bethel state Rep. Mary Nelson, who is close to giving birth herself.

"It's wonderful. She's very well-disguised," said Senate President Lyda Green, a mother of three who has sometimes sparred with Palin politically. "When I was five months pregnant, there was absolutely no question that I was with child."

Whether this turns out to be true or just a horrific instance of political swift boating back lash, I sit her feeling sorry for 16 year old Bristol Palin. She is at an age that involves very complicated issues in terms of maturity, self esteem and character development. Weak circumstantial evidence is all that exist currently and I hope nothing else comes to the fore front. True or not, I find myself questioning the decision of Sarah Palin to accept the V.P. nomination. If this is true, and the Palin's contrived the pregnancy and birth in front of the media to protect her daughter's reputation,it seems a little far-fetched as her motivation could have only been protecting her political career. As I pray that this is not the case, I find myself questioning the judgement of allowing her family to be dragged through the media mess that is about to happen. I have researched this issue enough to find that the false pregnancy rumours began in Bristol's high school, while she was on an extended medical leave that coincided with her mother's sudden pregnancy announcement and giving birth. It does not take an astute political junkie, to realize that this speculation would explode in the national political environment and certainly victimize her daughter. Family first, or political career first?

@Scott

I agree, simple vetting would have foreseen this.

In addition, IF true, this can't be spun in a positive light.  It goes to the honesty question even if it may be a family matter.  Andrea Mitchell just stated that Palin made a case against abortion with the example that she made the decision to have the baby knowing the baby would have DS.

www.votetheday.com/.../sarah-palin-is-not-trigs-mother-132

Justin, view the source metadata for your link.  It clearly shows the caption has been edited:

<img src="media.adn.com/.../316-adn_photo_10.1220017455.standalone.prod_affiliate.7.jpeg" height="335" width="500" alt="" />

<p class="byline">Photo by LESTER / Anchorage Daily News</p>

</div>

<p class="caption">Sarah Palin at home with her family in Wasilla, Alaska in 2006. From left is Piper, 5, husband Todd, Willow, 12, and at right is Bristol, 16. Not pictured is Palin's son Track, 17. Trig Palin was born in 2008.</p>

The fact is-if she is truly pro-life and if Palin is the mother-than why would this pro-life 44 year old pregnant woman who is considered high-risk by virtue of her own age and the fact that she is expecting a baby with Down's, wait 13 hours, fly from Texas to Alaska, with premature rupture of the membranes to get to a small local hospital without a NICU?  sounds very risky. Either she is lying or she and her doctors have no judgment.

If you looks at the evidence (pictures, etc.), it is clear that Sarah Palin is indeed the grandmother, not the mother.  Her daughter is clearly pregnant, especially if you look at the rest of her body: svelte and thin, except for her stomach and chest, which are too big (if you look at other pictures) due to mother's milk.

Another question.  The Palins just celebrated their 20th wedding anniversary the other day, and have a 19-year old son.  That gives roughly a three to four month window in which a normal child could have been conceived and born after they were married, and an eight month window in which he could have been born, having conceived prior to the marriage.  Which, by the way, took place suddenly at a courthouse due to "money issues."  That could be suspicious too...

The hypocrisy is not that a teenager had a baby (mistakes happen, teens have sex).

It the cover up and that Sarah is a lying scoundrel politician who threw her daughter under the bus to advance mamas desire to be one step away from the being President.

Found on Yahoo! News photos, this family photo shows how Sarah Palin looks when she has been pregnant in the past in her later stages of pregnancy.

news.yahoo.com/.../529a19dfc6774f308117d4be16d30c8d

Something isn't right. She was leaking fluid (a serious risk for infection) a month premature while knowing she was carrying a downs syndrome baby...remained to make a speech....flew from TX to AK with a stopover in Seattle...drove to a hospital near the remote town that she had been mayor of to give birth, when a larger, better equipped hospital was closer to the airport? Her daughter is out of school a lot longer than normal for a case of mono. and who always seems to be the one holding baby Trig...not Sarah...not Todd.

This is explosive if it is true...the unwed daughter of an ''abstinence-only'' advocate giving birth, and then moms' connections cover it up. This doesn't make her a hero...it makes her a hypocrite. And she would be in a position to push forward her agenda to dictate the reproductive decisions of others? Add this on top of 'troopergate' and she is toast. Maybe the GOP offered her up as VP to save Romney for 2012.

Yesterday they took the pic off the alaska web site. Later on it was put back on with the 2006 date on it. That pic was taken in 2007 the date was changed!

Alaskainhottness:

you keep linking to pics that were taken in Feb -- where you claim she is pregnant -- at that point she would have only been FOUR MONTHS pregnant -- and NOBODY, not even her staff knew she was pregnant until she announced it at month 7 -- where in photos just a month before giving birth she is virtually flat as a pancake.

so explain to me how she looked more pregnant at 4 months, was able to hide it for 7 months, and then look less pregnant a month before she (a 45-yo woman) who there is only a 1-2% chance of getting pregnant at her age without fertility intervention, and more than 50% chance of miscarriage -- flies 6 different times in the space of 2 days with her water breaking and then gives birth to a downs syndrome child, who DOES NOT TRANSFER POWER TO THE LT GOV DURING CHILD BIRTH, and then returns to work 2 days later?

For those questioning the mother of Trig Palin, check out the photos of Governor Palin,  clearly pregnant at six months ( 2-26-08), at ADN.com story of 3-05-08.

The leftist slime machine at work again.

Why is there so much unsubstantiated  slime  less than 48 hours after her pick as VP  on Sarah Palin , when the MSM hasn't spoken or printed nary a word on the Messiah's proven corrupt ties to the convicted slumlord/conman Resko, Saddam's banker Auchi, PLO spokesman Khalid Rashidi or the convicted Iraq embezzler /traitor Alsammrae.

The purveyors of the Palin baby rumors are absolutely disgusting.

I don't know who gave birth to Trig, but what I do know is the "mother" of Trig didn't bother with any maternity leave. My son is special needs, and what I do know is that these kids need a LOT of parental involvement. Whether adopted, or natural birth...mom being involved with baby matters.  She may be a good govenor...don't know. I do know she is a lousy mother.

This truly shows that Mccain just picked her because she is a woman! He did no research and picked her as a poor strategy. Its okay though, she will not be the next VP of the united states.

PROOF_  if this ISNT PREGNANT (APRIL 08) what is???

picasaweb.google.com/.../searchbrowse

Are there any recent pics of anyone other than Bristol holding baby Trig?

Pro-life is more than just having the baby it is the daily hands on care of that baby AFTER birth...not going immediately back to work, letting others care and nurture that baby from the onset. Not going on a whirlwing campaign tour. Her ambition comes before her child.

IF she is the mother, shame on her. If she is the grandmother, shame on her.

Some nurse or doctor would have let this one leak out by this time.  A good Democrat sure would.

Marti

So we need another leader that can conceal the truth, or at least try to make us believe something other than reality? I believe the GOP is sticking with their M.O. of running up the deficit and then turning it over to the Deomocrats to fix (remember the surplus we had with Clinton?). Let's get on with the plans for change by demanding TRUTH from our leaders.

Uh...maybe they did and that's why we're discussing it.

What pregnant woman over the age of 40 would get onto an airplane for a 12 hour flight knowing that she was leaking fluid, and not even make sure that any medical personnel were also on the plane?  I don't care how many children she gave birth to prior to her 35th birthday.  No informed and caring parent or doctor would advise that a woman over 40 take such a chance.  It makes no sense.

There has to be hospital records somewhere... there have to be nurses or doctors that treated/delivered all involved. Im sure if Sarah was not the mother of this baby, these people would have come forward and made clear her deceit.

I guess that speaks to her judgement...or lack of it

well abby, i dont know about you... but if i were thousands of miles away from my husband and family, and was 'leaking' water... if my doctor said it was ok to travel (knowing everything about me, and my baby), i would do anything and everything in my power to get home to deliver. Especially if i knew the baby has special needs. i would want to be with family, and with my own doctor!!!

I thought her husband was with her at the time. I would want to be an the most state of the art neonatal facility as soon as possible.

I have 4 children, and the LAST thing a woman in her 40s should do when her water breaks is take an 8 hour flight and THEN deliver her premature baby. Poor judgment or something fishy!

You people are sick.  Joanne, raise your own allergic spoiled brats and leave other women alone.

She consulted with her MD, not you. GTF over your self.

Right on...I would be at the closest, most state of the neonatal unit ASAP...but then what do I know....I'm just an RN. And i would not leave my special needs infant and be back to work 2 days later...but then what do i know...I'm just the parent of a special needs kid.  Sorry. A good parent? No. Good judgement? No.

aboutflying, I cannot believe that any doctor would advise a woman over the age of 40 who was leaking fluid to board an airplane and travel 12 hours and not even suggest that there be medical personnel aboard the flight.  No I don't buy any trained medical doctor advising a sitting governor, who is 40+ plus years and pregnant doing this. I would definitely question any doctor's professionalism and integrity to affirm such a decision.

TOM 94115 said:

PROOF_  if this ISNT PREGNANT (APRIL 08) what is???

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Can't see any proof.  What else?  A PILLOW.

The link to photo that sara provides (12:04 PM) shows what Palin REALLY looks like when she is pregnant. If this story is true, this will go down as the greatest blunder in political history. It might do so anyway. They say that the most important decision a candidate makes is the choice of a VP running mate. This shows McCain's character. Image is more important than the good of the country. His slogan should be "Country Last"

Your link doesn't work...and all the other ''proof'' pictures are from the back of her wearing an open jacket with a scarf...but she still isn't showing for being in the third trimester.

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a  duck...guess what it is?

As someone who was on the fence this choice pushed me straight to Obama/Biden.  I have nothing but respect and admiration for a woman who accepts the responsibility of a Down syndrome child when she becomes pregnant.  However, that choice seems to preclude the acceptance of even MORE responsibility and stress in your life.  Every grownup woman knows - you can't do it all.  Someone is going to suffer for this choice and it looks like it's little Trig Palin to me.  

You all got to see this link. This is what a pregnant Palin looks like. This is proof! news.yahoo.com/.../529a19dfc6774f308117d4be16d30c8d

I think speculating about "to be or not to be" pregnancies, based on photos is a waste of time.  Because it is what it is...and that is speculation. It's more responsible and productive to look for any facts...such as hospital records, flight times etc. Determine the truth based on facts. Then look at the candidates judgement calls.

First I'd like to say I am an MD.

This story sounds very shady or highly irresponsible.  A woman who has had 4 previous children can deliver very quickly after the loss of the amniotic fluid(water breaking). To take a 11 hr flight is irresponsible especially since the child was a known down syndrome child. If the baby would have had to been delivered on the plane it could have been a disaster, as DS children have multiple abnormalities and can have distress at birth. They are considers a higher risk delivery. If a woman is close term they are advised not to travel by plane. Also, they would never be advised to travel after their "water breaking". If your "water breaks" a woman is told to go to the hospital. In primigravid woman(1st baby) they dilate slower in most cases(1-1,5 cm/hr) so it is not a mad dash, but most act that way out of excitement and apprehension. In a muligravid woman(4 in her case) there is no way an OB would recommend travel especially with a potentially distressed delivery of a Down Syndrome baby. Multigravitous women usaull dialte at 2-2.5cm/he which means total dilation in less than 5hrs. Her flight was 11 hrs which means this was very risky.

This is either a cover up or Ms. Palin was highly irresponsible in her actions.

John- Re: the Yahoo photo. Palin is on the left; the obviously pregnant woman is the current Mayor of Wasilla.

The problem with this story is is that either while she may have knowingly brought a Down Syndrome child into the world, she may not have willingly done so when you take into account