FameCrawler

well,were not invincible are we? Things happen that we regret,repent and go on....But also, sometimes just go and sit down somewhere because you're not perfect..

Now,looks like Chris Brown can be fairly judged,since we the church are no different,rt?

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The hanging of dirty laundry leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.  Lifting your hands to a woman are never justifiable.  But woman can also push things to the limit.  I know of women who uses the arms of the law to their advantage.  Knowing that Bebe is loved by all, it is easy to drag his name through the mud. Bebe please dont start losing your cool.  

I am so disappointed.  But then this whole altercation has reminded me to keep my eyes focussed on Jesus, cause its all about Him.  

This accusation has no merrit, i don't say this because i know Bebe, but because i know his ex-wife that made the allegations and this has been a gross misreprsentation of the truth...this is slander at it's purest form. My hearts desire is that the church will now have the discernment to see the truth in this matter.

We are so quick to try, convict and sentence one star, but not others.  We at times are put in situations, make mistakes or the wrong buttons are pushed.  We as a people need to come together to help one another and not so quick to convict.  People who get angry to the point of putting our hands one another (man or woman) need professional help. And taking someone's career away is not helping.  

Bebe Winans got upset and "shoved" his Ex...Chris Brown beat Rihanna to a bloody pulp...we should not be comparing the two.  Bebe was wrong, but should not be put into the same category as CB.

JJ, an assault is an assault.  I in no way want to manifest anything further but, why would you try to down play one wrong act and allow another based on something that can escalate in the snap of a finger.  On the playground where I grew up a push or "shove" was just a prelude to a swing.  It's wrong either way; you may be a Bebe fan but, acknowledge his fault with truth.  Same for Oprah; will she do two weeks on him dedicated to this.  If a man will "shove" a woman to the ground in front of his children, what will he do behind a closed door or in private.  God bless all!

The bottom line is that no one can judge us but God, whether it is true or not we were not present. We as people of God need to pray when we hear of ANYONE being in this situation, whether it's C.B or Bebe, @ the end of the day, they are still human. May God forgive them and protect them ALL.

Come on people STOP IT!!! Do you understand that to make a complaint so that someone can be arrested doesn't take more than a statement. I was arrested for assault on my ex-wife some years ago, because she refused to let me out of my home and I moved her out of my way. Then with prompting for her crazy a** mother she called the police and I was arrested. A man should never put his hands on a woman unless he's trying to protect him self.

Let's stop for a minute, we don't know all the facts and sometimes the facts don't lead to the truth.

Any man or woman who puts there hands on another should not only be arrested but also punished.

From a father of two young ladies and one grand daughter...

Who is free from sin? Who is prefect? We must pray to the father for all people, and Bebe,Chris and many many other's who we don't know must seek help. From the father and from a counseling.  

Terry, I feel you, and the only reason why such a big deal is being made out of this is because of their Status,now don't get me wrong, I IN NO WAY AM FOR VIOLENCE, WHETHER ITS A MAN OR A WOMAN, BUT  we need to be realistic about the facts. I thank God I have never been neither hit or have hit, but I do feel for anyone that has been in eihter side. I am a mom and pray that this never happens to my daughter. I mean its ok for us to voice our opinions but being judgemental takes it to a whole diffrent level.

no one deserves to be hit whether it be man or woman. sometimes you just have to walk away but, it's hard to do that in these trying times.i think she just saw an opportunity to get him in trouble. I bet it was really nothing, but she made it out of something. some people just need to learn to let go and let god.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

No one is immune from this....no one...!!

I certainly would have to hear both of there point of views to be able to come to a sound conculsion.  When temepers flair, sometimes it is hard to keep your composer, especially when it is a deep rooted part of your inner being.  Even if you do love the lord.

Every wrong act is not a "sin" as the unpardonable sin known to most gospel based church goers!  When people (human beings) get angry (mad) we are not rational, anything can happen during that time.  As Spirit filled Christ followers, we have or should have the advantage of getting a warning before yeilding to destruction.  This means that we then have choice - to give in to our feelings or preserve in holding our peace.  Sometimes we give in to our feelings. However, Christ followers or not - we are people who live in a society of civil laws.  If a man or woman cannot live within the boundaries of those laws then we are subject to suffer the consequences of the violated law.  Common sense!  It's high time we all as adults choose our battles.  Do not allow ourselves to provoke or be provoked in a situation that could possibly cause a fight.  This is simple dicipline.  Take responsibility (you can!) and just stop acting like unsupervised kids!

I think any man that puts his hand on a woman need to be punished. I don't know BeBe and I have listen to some of his music, But if he is the God man he says he is. then he should have some control of himself. I hope he an his wife and work things out and that he is the God man he says he is. May God continue to direct his life and keep him covered.

Unfortunate situation, but domestic violence is prevelant in the church community, many pastors, bishops, apostles and praise leaders, "lay hands" and fist on their wives after casting the devil out of others.  Remember the pastor who killed his wife in NC a few years back then went to church, and preached to his congregation while her body lie in the trunk of a car, they were my undergraduate classmates.  Remember the pastor who chopped his wife body up and put her in the freezer then had sex with his daughter for four years. DV is so common and we who are the body of Christ MUST address the issue head on.  STOP preaching, praying, and prophesying over violence STOP the violence by aiding the victim. BELIEVE HER or (Him). I am a ssecond generation survivor of domestic violence and my husband was pastor.  Statistically over 70% of Christian women who  suffer "DV" are married to leaders in the church. We cannot know the details of this situation, we weren't there. However, whatever elements that created this alleged incident, there were signs leading up to this moment.  Is prayer in order yes, Godly counsel yes, but violence is a crime; as is sexual abuse, rape and adultery which is also prevelant in the body of Christ, (Unrelated to this inicident) but relevant.  Remember the law is for the lawless and we cannot allow criminals to find refuge in the church, salvation yes, but not sanction. While the church just prays many are becoming "prey". Every 9 seconds in America, a woman is being beaten. Questions to consider: Does your pastor talk about violence regularly? Would your pastor allow a workshop and pamphlets in your church? Is your pastor violent toward his wife and family?  How does your pastor treat women, period? I am Yes I am praying for this family, and NO I am not passing judgement. Furthermore, if you see violence call 911. If you are preparing to leave a violent situation, remember it is a process; not an event. Plan, reserve cash, identification, 2 weeks worth of clothing and essentials, DON'T leave a paper trail, AND don't believe him, when he begs, cries, and brings gifts to buy enough time to draw you back in. Finally, tell no one the leave quietly.  If you reside in NC and facing a crisis go to Interact of Wake County, NC, the NC Coalition Agianst DV, Durham, NC and PEACE Workplace Violence, NC,  I have worked with these institutions of advocacy they can help you!!!

I am very diapointed, not in mr. or mrs.winans but in us as people, we know that real parents have what could be considered a open scalp when it come to our children, but why do we feel just because we are christians that sin, mistakes or even situations is beyond us anyone of us, everyone would admit that was a bad move to hit/ push any women, but to be honest we dont know if he really pushed her down or not I do know that if he did he is dealing with his mistake and we certainly are nobody to judge, to many people want to brand the cross in your face for our mistakes, we forgot that a christian is somebody that knows that God is real, that we follow jesus and commit ourselves to Gods commandments, who told you that they were God, we need to remember the sin we all commit everyday, did anybody arest you? No well you better Thank God, cause you know you did something equally as bad or worst, but we didnt get called on it,thats mercy, stop pointing and start praying, we are and will always be pointed out of the crowd, we have acted as though we have arrived but the truth is always going to show up and tell the truth on each of us, myself included first, Bro winans was brought to his knee's thats all, tell me who comes out the better for it, isnt that how a clay pot is made tear it down the build it up.          

Listen, why wait a full month before pressing charges?  If it happened on 02-13-09 then the police should have been called.  It sounds like he really did something to rub her the wrong way, and she called the cops complaining about what he had done a month ago.   A woman's scorn is nothing to be played with my friends.   Anita Hill waited ten years before deciding that she had been raped.  Listen folk, I was raised in Mississippi.  If you beat me down, I am not going to wait three years before I press charges.   IF IT IS TRUE, Bebe Winan deserves his punishment.   However, it sounds vindictive because of the time element that is associated with it.  

Some people wait years before suing their aggressor because they fear to face them and testify, and because often times they blame themselves. I have a relative who was raped and has psychological issues because of this (terrified, became obese, suicidal), does that mean that if she presses charges two years from now it's a lie? No. Just because people wait doesn't mean it's false, and just because people don't wait, doesn't mean it's true.

I think that there is a big possiblity that God is telling us to wake up people!!! Thousands of women are beat up everyday and nobody cares. People are always so quick to down play the man's responsibility in this and that is why 1 and 3 women will expereince domestic violence in their life time! This whole case maybe a stunt by his wife, but they said the same thing about Rhianna. Wake up people. Its time to do more than just pray and repent!

for your information the she filed charges the same day it happen the warrant was issued the next day but everytime the officer went to make arrest he was not at home or he knew the officer he was booked on the day of the court appearance because he got special priviledges to have his attorney escort him through the procedure so he wouldn't be in jail long

what about all the women we abuse men?  No one should be abused, but sometimes women makeup stuff when angry.

Its sad that christian men whom God has placed to be the head of the home are disrespecting their women.  

They will all have to answer to God on judgement day.  I believe their deserved to be punished so that others will learn from their example.  I do hope he has ask God for forgiveness, because Jesus love him.

people are not perfect.yes we do look up to this man,and they should really try harder to set an example for us.when we draw closer to god, satan draws closer to us.custody battles are not good.everyone suffers, the children the most. we all love our children. men should never be denied the right to be involved in their children life,especially after divorce or separation.children need their fathers.we need to pray for this family, and ourselves.

BeBe, my brother, please be strong.  I continue to love and enjoy your music very much.  Things happen, who are we too judge.  That is left up to our almight Jehovah God.  I wish you the best please settle this affair swiftly, so you can get back to doing the things you love, and making the music that makes your fans love you more.

Agape'

Pamela Weston

WHO CARES BE BE & CHRIS HAVE ENOUGN MONEY TO WORK IT OUT

WE HAVE TO PRAY OUR WAY OUT

First all praises to our ALL MIGHTY FATHER GOD AND OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST! Just about every man and woman has a two feet space that they don,t allow people to cross, even when the other persons are foretold,but people know how to push that button, even though it is wrong to hit another person we are only human born into SIN. Being human means there is a reaction to every action and it is sad!

Everyone has a breaking point.  We are hurt the most by the people who are close to us.  After 16 years of marriage she knows more about him than any of us, both good and bad.  I am with Terry on this one!  Women are in some cases the aggressors but are not considered abusers.  If men say half of what women say to men we are labeled abuser but they are just speaking their minds or feelings.  They won't tell you the part that he walked away and closed himself in the room and she kicked the door in! (True Story) If we did this we are going to jail.  They won't tell you, that he walked away and she follows degrading him.  Or how he just wanted to see his children and she goes out of her way to be unavailable to him out of spite.  Remember Alex Balwin calling his daughter a rude little pig because Kim B. was making it impossible to talking to his child.  What they are doing with the double standard treatment is fueling a gender war.  If a male teacher have sex with a 13 year old student he gets life in prison but if a female teacher does the same she gets a slap on the wrist.  We are being condition to believe that because a woman is a delicate flower that their emotional health is important than the male counter part.  In other words my feeling got to take the back seat until she is emotionally nutured first.  The hell that!  They still get the kids even though some are the worst mothers in the freakin world.  How disgusting is that.  

Sheryl, sorry to hear your story of survial!  But I am afraid that its falling on deaf ears!  One of the biggest reasons is that double standard for men and women in re: to violence, society and family.  We are in the middle of a gender war.  Men have no sympathy because of emotional abuse from relationship with women who have ruined their lives finacially and emotionally.  Granted there are women who are wronged by men and they are not the problem.  Its the one who are the aggressors, golddiggers, loud mouths, and the unruly.  Who are the real drivers of bad relationships and destroy men lives!  Until we learn both men and women to take responsibility for how we treat each other, its only going to get worse.  

Pam,

Equally is the Women whom God has placed by men of God need to be held accountable as well.  Both men and women need to learn how to nurture eachother in the Lord and that's whats lacking in the church.  It's a dog eat dog world and we still are worldly and we bring this attitude into our churches and into our family and it needs to stop.  Women want men to nurture them and please them but they are not doing the same.  Respect is an important element of a great relationship and it's learned.  

Wow, this is a very intereting situation, we should not be too quick to judge lest we be judged ourselves. We will never really know the truth in these high profile cases, we must consider the families and little ones and how they are innocently affected and keep them in your thoughts and prayers.

It never ceases to amaze me how people can't just sit down and work it out. The children who experience domestic violence in their homes really get the raw deal. As a teacher, I hear some of the horror stories and note the decline in grades of students who experience domestic violence in the home. Some of these students acquire the same skill sets observed in the home, and lash out physically when they feel threatened. So, the cycle is perpetuated.

I am stunned at the silent condoning of domestic violence. Men often rationalize and downplay the seriousness of domestic violence, until confronted with serious prison time. Even then, they manage to find a cadre of sympathizers who often condone this behavior and in many instances encourage it.

As I walk the streets and look into the eyes of African American Men, a silence ensues. I want to ask what they intend to do to help mitigate the level of violence in the community, but remain silent. But when I arrive home in the evening, I get an earful from women (generally) about the need to mitigate the problem of domestic violence in our community. There is a disconnect amongst the genders in many instances. This disconnect, if not mitigated, normally results in ended relationships, divorce, and yes, domestic violence.

If you really want to understand the problem, go to a Domestic Violence Hearing in the Family Court in your community. Then come home, turn on the local news and marval at the young people who settle issues using violence. Say to yourself: :they need to lock these kids up. Where are the parents?"

Domestic violence is a terrible thing.

The devil comes to steal, kill and destroy. For a lack of better words many households have listen to BeBe and CeCe for years. Inspiration and the only connection some have to hear from the Lord. The bible says "touch not his anointing and do his Prophetics any harm".  I will keep the Winans in prayer. Only God can remove this burden and destroy this yoke.  Be blessed!!

People respond from their personal experiences.  However, their experience is not Mr. Winan's.  You don't know the situation so how can you say who is right or who is wrong?  All of it is what we heard, not what we saw.  If we examine closely, we all have something that is not right in our lives.  So while you are ready to condemn Mr. or Mrs. Winans, consider your ways.  Leave the situation to God and He will take care of it all.  While your attention is focused on the Winan's and Oprah's response, who's minding your business?

Still praying for this situation and everyone who has made a comment regarding this INTERNATIONAL CRIME Domestic Violence. Grace and Peace to you all.

he might be a gospel singer but hes also human.he just need 2 try an not do it in front of children next time. plz

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Chris Brown incident made headlines, what happen with BB Winan incident.                                  

Some of these women are crazy too!

No man should hit a women, but some of these women are just CRAZY...

I have a son...and I'm gearing him up for these "Skants" out here......

No man should hit a women.....

Maybe I Missed sm/thing..I was little late on reading this Story So by the time I got the News it had been..Added to Subtracted from...So can some one PLEASE inform me Other then the two Children,Debra D.Winans and Mr.BB..Who else witness this Altercation..Oh..My bk.as I was reading all the comments above it sounded like Most of u were there,I read he shld had Not Struck her,He was Wrong,Not in front of the kids,a Flairing Temper,Special treament by Police,Him not hm when Papers were Served,My Only ?? is WOW..That the Winans wld Do All of this in Front Of Such a Large Crowd of Strangers...Moral of Comment:IF U WASNT THERE THEN SHUT-UP!!!!