Lying Liars and The Lying Liars Who Lie

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kalimurzino@rambler.ru — Mon, 28 May 2007 19:03:56 GMT

David

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panthergirl — Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:29:04 GMT

Er, that was "threw horrid tantrums".

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panthergirl — Sat, 10 Mar 2007 14:28:23 GMT

And you know what else?

I had a baby who slept all the time. And never cried. Ever. My friends hated me...they saw it for themselves, with their own eyes, as their kids shreiked and screamed. Every picture we have of her as an infant is a sleeping one. We even laid her next to the Thanksgiving turkey, fast asleep. Slept through fireworks, fire trucks, you name it.

HOWEVER...... she more than made up for the crying by the time she was four, through horrid tantrums at 7, and the sleeping? You try and wake a 12-hour block sleeper when it's time to get up for school!

Everybody gets theirs... even if they aren't lying. ;)

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GirlsGoneChild — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:59:07 GMT

YES! Ahhhhh! This makes me MENTAL! And I agree with the TV thing... No one lets their kids watch TV but... BUT, they do? Or it's on, but their kids aren't watching it? Huh? WTF?

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BarbaraR — Thu, 22 Feb 2007 00:54:20 GMT

jackie - lying AND delusional behavior, i think! i shall never forget the mom i met with her 14 month old. the kid couldn't talk but yet the mom told me she was ready for toilet training. then she asked her daughter to poop and said "look at her, she pooped," in this weird proud voice. she changed her diaper and .... no poop. then the kid started eating dirt.

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Jackie — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 19:58:09 GMT

My oldest is 12 now, and I swear she didn't sleep thru the night until she was 3, and only after I bribed her with a sleeping bag present..despite all sorts of attempts. But my favorite story is when a very bleary eyed me, stupidly asked the mother of a baby a few months ago whether her son slept thru the night, and she proudly said, oh yes, he is an angel.. She then paused, and without missing a beat, in her happy voice said, "he only got up for a few minutes, we read four books, and played with blocks, and went right back to sleep." (this was the same mom who months after I SAW her spooning instant mashed potatoes into her son's mouth, wrinkled her own mouth and told me she wouldn't feed her child tater tots -- but that was the difference between a stay at home mom (her), and a working mom (me).

Is it lying, or just basic delusional behavior?

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simone — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 17:33:45 GMT

No, no--Phoebe is picky too. That list is literally everything I could think of that she will eat and only sometimes. No shepherds pie for her. She hates the Tofutti too which is weird--maybe it's a texture thing. My friend said to me, "You wait--you'll be calling me in 3 years and telling me she's making her own Cobb salad." I hope so! :)

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BarbaraR — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:56:19 GMT

Simone - i am impressed! Mamie is a meat eater but refuses eggs. We try like everyday and she looks at me as if I am crazy (smart kid.) Sounds like your daughter is eating great though. Tonight, spaghetti with turkey meatballs - wish us luck! And yes, that soy cheese is gross, but mine eats it.... Bec. of her bad teething we even tried tofutti last night and she rejected it. Maybe I got a picky eater?....

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simone — Wed, 21 Feb 2007 05:36:34 GMT

Ah, I can talk food all day! This has been quite a journey for me since everything I know how to cook turns out to have cheese in it. Do you eat chicken/meat or eggs? My daughter is 2.5 and likes her food pretty simple and identifiable--in case I would try to sneak some zucchini in there somewhere. So, avocado and bean tacos, spaghetti with marinara, stir frys, chinese chicken salad, soyriso and egg burritos, hummus and ikra with pita, black beans and rice, teriyaki chicken, chicken adobo, bacon tomato avocado sandwiches. (wow--I've never seen the list, kind of sad.) Most of the time, however, her plate looks lie a selection of hors d'oerves or like she's a raw foodist: apple, cherry tomatoes, cucumber, bread and soybutter. She rejects vegan cheese-- that would make cooking a bit more interesting. If you ahve any ideas, I'm looking to branch out too-- I'll try the Amy's Organics.

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BarbaraR — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:42:46 GMT

hey simone -- nah, mamie is still allergic to dairy. it bummed me out but i know she will outgrow it, but most likely when she is close to 4 years old. so that means another blood test next year. she lives on amy's organic vegan meals - the shepard's pie, veggie loaf and tofu scrambles. i am running out of ideas! how old is yr daughter? and what are you cooking for her?!

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simone — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:40:12 GMT

I think here in LA the thing to lie about is tv. I can't prove it, but apparently nobody watches tv. My friend went to a preschool orientation night where they were told, no media of any kind until they are 5--no tv, computers, no MUSIC.

Hey, I'm just curious since my daughter has a dairy allergy too and we'll be testing her in June--did your daughter outgrow her allergy? I can't wait to start making quesadillas and all that other good kid stuff!

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Mommyca — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 20:30:21 GMT

thanks for your article, i totally agree with you. my daughter didn't sleep thru the night until she was 9 mo and i was also worried because of many things i read on the contrary. then as sumoo said things CHANGE! after many months of bliss of my daughter sleeping 11-12 hs straight, now she wakes in the middle of the night and wants me to stay with her, no matter that i sleep in a little bed next to her crib. she doesn't want me to leave the room at all, even though she doesn't want me to hold her.

it seems that their sleeping patterns are dynamic and we have to adapt to them, but unfortunately they don't tell you that very often and we (I guess first-time parents) tend to freak out. but yes, to J9: your kid will sleep and it will be wonderful!

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HeadMutha~ Rocky — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 04:30:39 GMT

Lying about what I like to call Muthahood creates the "I'm better than you" mentality. I'm the exact opposite here. I know all my kids strengths and all of their weaknesses and have no problem sharing both. Sharing the truth about Muthahood (all the good, the bad and the ugly) could bring us together as a group. If we were to be totally honest, we could be there for each other physically, mentally and spiritually. Because when times are tough and you just to rip all your hair out, the US vs. THEM should be moms vs. the kids, not moms vs. moms!

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BarbaraR — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 01:04:02 GMT

J9 - it IS true - your baby will sleep. Mine didn't sleep thru the night til 9 months -- and then still kinda woke up once for a bottle. Whatever, you do what you gotta do. i wrote this piece after seeing a new dad in the park with his 8 week old baby. He looked tired and I asked him how it was going. He said to me "all these people are telling me their baby sleeps thru the night and ours is up 2-3-4 times." And I was like, "of course, you have a newborn. Those people are lying." And he looked at me, with such validation and said "I knew it!" He felt so much better and I was happy to share my story with him. People need to know that they are not alone. New parenthood is a scary deal sometimes and knowing others are in your boat helps a ton.

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J9 — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 00:48:45 GMT

Oh, bless you for sharing this experience. We have a beautiful, darling, precious 4.5 month old, who happens to also be, ahem, a "reluctant" sleeper. I feel like everyone I know has a story about how amazing their baby slept from early on. I figure at least some of them have got to be full of crap, right? I mean, right?!?! Your article made me laugh and feel a whole lot better. I have read the last few sentences about twenty times now: "Your kid will sleep. You will sleep. It will happen." I feel so very fried but we are figuring out what works for him little by little, every day (and night!) Thanks!

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BarbaraR — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:36:52 GMT

I was truly happy for people who got their kids to sleep thru the night, either it just happening of thru sleep training. It was just nuts how some people couldn't be honest. I was so looking for honesty, esp. in those early months.

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RachelZ — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:32:55 GMT

Yes, with the lying. And it goes both ways. I find myself sometimes exaggerating the "issues" we have with The Jillian (thank heavens, they are few) so that the other mommies in the playgroup won't hate me because she sleeps 12-13 hours a night with absolutely no "training" on our part.

I fully expect that to go away, though. And, as a semi-professional insomniac, I will be ready.

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Kate — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:25:18 GMT

I love your writing!

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sumoo — Mon, 19 Feb 2007 02:42:57 GMT

Perhaps they weren't lying. I'm learning w/ our baby that things CHANGE. For weeks on end she'll sleep beautifully and all of a sudden she can't sleep unless I'm lying right next to her. Annoying if they were, though.