Home/Work

Hope springs eternal...or maybe I'm just delusional

We've decided to keep trying to have a baby - or at least give it one more go. That's what feels right, mostly. There is certainly a part of me that says we should just call it a day, given that I have already given birth to four healthy children. But considering how much older H (17), J (13) and E (10) are, and the fact that they spend half their time with their father, giving up would mean that 16 month old C would mostly grow up in an only-child-like household. And while I have no issue with other parents who decide a singleton kid is the right choice for their own family, I don't want that for her. She already misses her big brothers and her sister when they are away every other week, and I know that will only become more pronounced as they get older.

 

 Even before this last pregnancy ended in miscarriage, I'd been carefully charting my fertility for the past several years, using the great info in this book, and I've also been doing a lot of research into the causes of recurrent pregnancy loss. Many healthy women experience one or two miscarriages in their lives, and the reasons are random and generally unknown. But when someone miscarries over and over and over, as I have in recent years, there is generally a specific cause - or several specific causes -  behind the problem.

 

After the first several losses, I had some genetic testing done, and it was discovered that I have a fairly common genetic thrombophilia condition that CAN be the cause of recurrent losses. Because of this condition, I am taking what my perinatologist believes are the appropriate preventive medications, but I want to have some discussion with him when we next see him in about 10 days about stepping up the medication protocol to the next level, something he told me I did NOT need to do in this past pregnancy.

 

But one other issue I've discovered in charting my fertility is that I likely have what is known as a luteal phase defect. This means that I ovulate less than 10 days before my next period starts, while an optimal cycle (for fertility purposes anyway) has ovulation occurring 14 days or more before the next cycle begins. During a cycle where that ovulation becomes a pregnancy, the short "luteal phase" makes for a less favorable hormonal environment for the pregnancy to progress. My doctor has been treating this by giving me progesterone supplements after pregnancy is confirmed, but some doctors feel like a better way to treat the issue is to use Clomid to stimulate ovulation earlier in the cycle in order to force a longer luteal phase.

 

So I am going to point this luteal phase issue out to my doctor, and I am going to ask him to prescribe Clomid. I am more than a little nervous about the higher risk of multiples with the use of Clomid, but I think it's a risk I'm willing to take at this point. I also know that for me, Clomid is as far as I am willing to go in the way of fertility treatments. If it works, great. If not, I'll be really disappointed, but I am at peace with the fact that you really don't always get everything you want in life just because you want it. I want to remain very conscious that I don't let this baby quest get in the way of enjoying what I am lucky enough to already have: children, husband, work, family, health... It has to remain secondary.

 

So we'll give this pregnancy thing at least one more try. Maybe two - max. And that's a scary thought. I know that if we manage to get knocked up again, this time I really won't tell anyone at all until I am at least five months pregnant (of course, by that time, it would be completely obvious to anyone with eyeballs). And I will have to assume a mindset that expects the pregnancy to end badly. That's the only way to handle it, I think, and it will be somewhat mentally torturous. But my heart tells me there is one more baby coming to our family.

 

I hope I am not just delusional ;-)

 

SUBSCRIBE TO THIS BLOG

FOLLOW KATIE'S BLOGGING ON TWITTER OR FACEBOOK

READ MORE OF KATIE'S BABBLE BLOGGING

VISIT KATIE'S OTHER BLOG


+ DIGG + DEL.ICIO.US

Comments

 

Laura said:

That sounds fantastic - I truly wish you the best.  Thank you for writing so honestly in this blog - I know that it is both helpful and healing for many women.

Good luck!

December 6, 2008 10:49 PM
 

Jillian said:

I'm so sorry to hear about your loss.

We're hoping for one more baby as well. Our son is almost 14 months. I am almost 38. It took us a long time to conceive him and I'm thinking of asking my doctor for Clomid as well. I'll be crossing my fingers for you and watching for updates.

December 7, 2008 12:47 AM
 

AJ said:

I also have a short luteal phase and have just recently begun researching possibly treatments. In addition to progesterone and/or Clomid, another treatment I have come across is Vitamin B6 supplements. I've just started taking 100mg/day, so I can't yet personally attest to it's efficacy, but I've read quite a few positive reviews from women with luteal phase defect. Maybe something else to discuss with your doctor?

December 7, 2008 10:27 AM
 

Michelle said:

I also had a luteal phase defect & Clomid helped with both children I carried (I miscarried on the two I didn't use Clomid for).  It's worth a try!!  And the chances of triplets is ONLY 1%...  ;)  hehe!

December 7, 2008 12:42 PM
 

MidLifeMama said:

A friend of mine is 6 months along in a pregnancy that is the result of one dose of Clomid. Good luck!

December 7, 2008 12:58 PM
 

Kelly said:

I'm not sure if these results would apply to you because of your specific information, but I thought I would pass the information along:

news.bbc.co.uk/.../7547400.stm

December 7, 2008 12:58 PM
 

Dewi said:

Clomid is a wonder drug according to my many clients who have gotten pregnant with it's assistance. I have a lot of over 40 yr old clients.  From your writing I can tell you and Jon would think it was truly exciting and fun to have triplets!!!

:-)>

Go for it Katie and Jon, keeping my fingers crossed for you.

December 7, 2008 1:46 PM
 

Jane said:

Listen to your heart!! It knows things our minds cannot comprehend.

December 7, 2008 3:09 PM
 

kgranju said:

dewi - hush your mouth! the thought of triplets makes me weep. twins i could reluctantly handle, but i think i'd have to give at leat one triplet to some other mama ;-)

the risk of higher order multiples on clomid is very small.

-katie

December 7, 2008 4:19 PM
 

clara said:

I also admire your honesty on here, it really does help people when we are open about things like this, even when its hard. I agree with your thoughts about what to bring up with the dr. and I am wishing you both the best.

December 7, 2008 4:59 PM
 

lmariea said:

I'm a Clomid baby, and I don't have a twin.

So sorry for your loss, and praying for your success.

December 7, 2008 7:16 PM
 

Lisa said:

I wish you luck!!!

December 7, 2008 10:36 PM
 

Erika (uumomma) said:

sending p/pt!

December 7, 2008 11:59 PM
 

Sajmom said:

I thihnk it's funny that you keep writing about four kids as thought that's an enormous number (I know it feels that way sometimes, I have four myself) but really it's not.  I think that if it doesn't work out you can still feel blessed that C. will have the next best thing to a close in age sibling-a close in age cousin!  

I think it's great that you are opening up about all this-not just the miscarriges and infertility, but you are also making women aware that it is possible to be informed about your own fertility and body.   Not just leaving it all up to the doctors, you are a participant.  

December 8, 2008 12:21 AM
 

kgranju said:

I guess I feel like four children seems like a lot in the context of someone who is trying to have a fifth! I feel almost apologetic in wishing for a baby since I am so blessed to have four kids already. So that's maybe why I present the situation that way - like four children is a lot - just because of the context :-)

December 8, 2008 8:00 AM
 

Dewi said:

Katie,

You have four kids, but, C will be raised like an only child because of the age difference and other family they have. So you do have one child, desire that she have a close in age sibling to grow up with and relate to is different. You do not need to explain or apologize for wanting more!

Nothing wrong with a sorta kinda only child that C would be. I made that decision to have an only. Whether it was by default or conscious choice to have an only you ultimately choose your family size. After all it is a choice if you want to adopt or be a foster parent. Never loose sight that if you want another child being a parent is not all about giving birth.  

This is a process you and Jon want to go though until you decide you don't want to anymore.  

Than you can buy a horse to soothe your heart!  

;-)

December 8, 2008 9:44 AM
 

Marie Eve said:

I wish you good luck, honestly. Just hoping you won't have any more heartache through this.

Even though I was 30, I had a really hard time conceiving, and I also had a short luteal phase. About a week after ovulation I started applying progesterone cream a few times every day, and it was buying me a day or two. You can get it without a prescription at a health food store (I think the usual indication is for menopausal hot flashes).

I was supposed to start Clomid on my next cycle, then of course I got pregnant naturally. I would have totally gone for it, although like you I was a bit scared... The doctor told us the chance of multiples was about 10%, but I'm sorry ALL the Clomid stories I've heard of around me involve twins!  

December 8, 2008 9:46 AM
 

Summer said:

Sending you baby vibes again!  I hope that you can get what you want.  Having gone through a miscarriage myself...I know the feeling and longing for another baby!  I think its great that you are involved and in tune with your body and the issues you have.  

December 8, 2008 12:30 PM
 

Kim said:

"...while I have no issue with other parents who decide a singleton kid is the right choice for their own family, I don't want that for her"

This statement is just wrong. Continually having miscarriages just so that your youngest daughter (who is already part of a large, close, loving family) can have a sibling closer in age?

Save yourself further drama and buy her a dog.

December 8, 2008 1:44 PM
 

Lynnster said:

To each their own, but I'm going to have to disagree with that last (and tactful, much?) statement.  I'm an only child (my "sister" is not my sister by blood relation) so I'm an expert on this.

Yes.  As long as you still want more children, then go for it.  It's up to you and hubby ANYWAY and nobody else's business anyhow, but I'm here to tell you as an only child - I always wished I had siblings.  Always, always.  Still do at 42.

Don't get me wrong, I was fine being an only child, it was just fine, and it certainly had some perks.  But I would have rather had siblings.  I always felt like I was missing something others had, and was jealous of those who had brothers and/or sisters, always.

My "sister" and I grew up together and might as well be real sisters, but we didn't grow up together in the same house and it's not quite the same, though close.  And I'm marrying into a family of four brothers, which is great in a way... but on the other hand, the dynamic between them all also perpetually reminds me of what I have missed not having any of my own.

To heck with any naysayers, you and J. just do what's best for you two and C.  Will be sending good karma eastward for a long time to come.

December 8, 2008 2:20 PM
 

Liz said:

actuall, though it is much less common than with the big gun fertility drugs, high order multiples HAVE occurred on clomid.  I had one child and wanted another.  My doctor told me about a woman who had five. I realized that I did not want another child badly enough to risk putting myself in that situation with all the dilemmas and extremely high chance of severely disabled chldren etc etc. Further, the jury is still out on whether fertility drugs contribute to ovarian cancer. Is it really worth it???Our society treats children like a commodity that we are entitled to in the exact number and configuration we want. Abortion. The pathetic way in which potential adoptive parents try to influence vulnerable young women to give up their babies. The way we just parade into third world countries and feel entitled to normal healthy children and get pissed off when what we get is a seriously disturbed kid because they have been severely traumatized.

I did everything I could to have a baby (I did , btw) but I just could not cross the line and take clomid. sometimes stuff happens for a reason.

December 8, 2008 8:33 PM
 

James said:

Hang in there. My prayers are with you.

December 8, 2008 9:51 PM
 

Sara said:

I've been trying to conceive for three years without success.  We are slowly moving into the treatment stages (not because we want to take it slow, but because circumstances have prevented us from moving any faster).  Anyway, I know that EVERYONE has an opinion about what I should be doing, what the problem is, what we should want, whether we should adopt or not, whether IVF is great or totally wrong, etc. etc.  In the end, fertility issues are really personal, and everyone will come to different conclusions.  The comments you have received seem to be overwhelmingly supportive, but of course there are the critics, too, who seem to know all the "right" answers.    

In light of this, I just wanted to let you know that I am very grateful for your willingness to share your experiences - I can't tell you how much I appreciate your attitude.  It really is  inspiring.  

December 9, 2008 4:18 AM
 

wondering said:

If the priority is for your daughter to have a sibling close in age, why not adopt?

December 10, 2008 4:45 PM
 

kgranju said:

That's a good question, and I am not sure I can give you an answer any better than this one: adoption doesn't feel like the right path for us.

-Katie

December 10, 2008 4:54 PM
 

Loona said:

Katie, if I'm not mistaken, the risk of multiples can be minimized by having ultrasound monitoring to make sure you are not developing too many follicles. If your OB doesn't do monitoring for a clomid cycle, you could probably find a reproductive endocrinologist who will. Good luck!

December 23, 2008 7:39 PM

in

About the Blogger

Katie Allison Granju

A working mom embraces life with four busy kids and a continually buzzing Blackberry.

Katie Allison Granju lives in a 100-year-old house with her husband and her four children, who range in age from one to seventeen. She's a book author, a freelance writer and Director of Social Media at a public relations firm. She doesn't know how she does it either.

GROUP BLOGS

  • Strollerderby

    The smartest, funniest, most exhaustive parenting blog in the blogosphere.
  • Droolicious

    Modern design for modern parents.
  • FameCrawler

    Your daily baby celebrity fix.
back to blog homepage