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My son and his knife

I have made it a practice, ever since my children were old enough to understand, to talk to them frequently about how to avoid dangerous people and situations. I ask them things like what they would do if a man approached them and asked for directions, or what to do  if some woman they had never met came up to them at the park and offered to show them something interesting. We talk about different techniques that child snatchers and molesters use to lure kids, and we even talk through scenarios of escape in the unimaginable event that one of them were to be abducted.

 

Last year, E. - who was in 4th grade at the time - participated in a really great program they do at his school each year where an expert comes and talks to the kids about stranger danger, and personal autonomy and safety. As part of that program, the kids had a discussion with an adult facilitator about how they would react if faced with a dangerous situation. E. apparently responded with his trademark honesty by calmly relating that if someone tried to grab him, he would stab the attacker in the heart with his pocketknife.

 

The result? I got a phone call from the school, and E. got a trip to the principal's office. The school assumed that E's response was evidence of an unhealthy aggressive streak, perhaps stemming from his parents' messy divorce. In fact, there was no emotional trauma at play here: my son was just repeating the same thing we've talked about at home. If some guy ever grabs my child, and my child happens to have his pocketknife on him, of course he should stab the attacker. Or kick him. Or bite him. Or poke his eyes out. Or do whatever he could to hurt the bad guy and get away.

 

And I do let my children have pocketknives. In fact, both of my sons have enjoyed having a pocketknife since the age I felt they were old enough to handle one safely - about 8 years old. (My 13-year-old daughter also owns a pocketknife, but has shown zero interest in carrying it or using it). The boys like whittling, poking at things in the woods, and cutting fishing line when they are fishing. Mostly, though, they have both just liked having their knives with them, on their person. E., who is now 10, actually has quite an assortment of pocketknives, including one favorite, largish one he refers to rather comically (To me, not to him. He's dead serious) as "Old Reliable."

 

E. takes Old Reliable everywhere he can take it. He knows that school, church, and most friends' houses are totally off limits for pocketknives, and he's followed this rule very well. We do have a few close friends, as well as my siblings' homes, where pocketknives are explicitly allowed, as long as the kids follow the safety rules. I have had to revoke pocketknife privileges for a time with E on two occasions. Once he cut a big hold in one of his sheets while playing around with his knife, and once he left Old Reliable out where a younger child could have gotten his or her hands on it.  He seems to have learned his lesson. He's very careful with his pocketknife these days.

 

Yesterday, while visiting his 8 year old cousin, the boys announced they were heading out to the woods near my brother's house to play. I felt like the time was right for a refresher discussion on stranger danger, and how to be safe should someone they didn't know approach them. The boys listened intently, and then E. reminded me that both boys had their pocketknives, and wouldn't hesitate to use them if anyone tried to hurt them. He had a confident gleam in his eye as he told me this, and he promised to look out for his two-years-younger cousin.

 

The odds are low - thank God - that anyone will ever try to snatch E. or his cousin, but I am glad the boys feel empowered to fight back with every weapon at their disposal should someone ever TRY to hurt them. And I think they are learning some important lessons in personal responsibility and safety by having their own pocketknives.

 

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Comments

 

Laura said:

How silly it is to conflate aggression towards an attacker with unhealthy and unprovoked aggression! Our boys will carry pocketknives, too. Thanks for this post.

December 22, 2008 10:18 AM
 

Melissa said:

I think it's great to teach them about stranger danger and to empower them. I was born and raised in the Bronx, New York, so I'm all for teaching kids to be aware and alert to danger. But they should still be very careful and not overconfident, as a grown person could easily disarm a child of his knife.

December 22, 2008 11:33 AM
 

EG said:

Hubby and his brother each got a pocketknife for their 10th birthdays.  Hubby lost his a few years ago - his pants were too lose and it slipped out.  I gave his parents the honor of replacing it.

But it's been part of his habit to carry it pretty much everywhere since he turned 10.  I see no issue with it.

December 22, 2008 11:58 AM
 

Jane said:

Leave it to the school system. (and I'm a teacher!)

We're going to tell you that strangers are dangerous but then penalize you if you say what you are going to do protect yourself from them.

What are you supposed to do? Ask nicely for a child abductor to leave you alone?

That being said, I agree with Melissa about guarding against

overconfidence. It would not take much for a grown man to disarm a child.

Did the school actually think that he had the knife on him at school?

December 22, 2008 12:29 PM
 

Heather said:

Maybe the school's response was an unfortunate result of Columbine etc.  and if so, what a perverse result-- making kids actually less safe

December 22, 2008 12:32 PM
 

diera said:

I don't have any ethical problem with this, but I wouldn't want it to be my child's first response to "how would you handle a dangerous situation" for purely tactical reasons.  A kid in a fight with an adult who is larger and stronger is already fighting a losing battle, armed or not.  I would personally place emphasis on escape as the top priority.  If the adult is reaching to grab you, RUN, and scream at the top of your lungs (apparently "Fire!" is more likely to get help than "Help!").  If the child is wasting time trying to dig a knife out of a pocket because he/she is under the impression that with a knife he/she is the equal of an adult, I'd say the knife is a dangerous distraction.

However, I totally agree that if the adult has already got you, sure, use your fists, heels, knife, whatever you've got.

December 22, 2008 1:05 PM
 

kgranju said:

I totally love my children's school. I think they reacted in the way they thought made sense. I just happen to know that E wasn't being aggressive. He was just telling it as he saw it.

And I agree 100% that an adult could easily disarm a child. In no way am I suggesting that parents or kids should see a pocketknife as rocksolid defense against a criminal attacking a child. All I was saying was that IF a child had a knife and IF he had the opportunity to injure an attacker with that knife, well, hell yes he should do it.

Katie

December 22, 2008 1:30 PM
 

Miriam said:

Yeah, my 17 year old daughter has a pocket knife that she uses around the barn. As soon as she's out of high school she will be gifted a pepper spray to put on her keychain.I would have her carry it already except the school policy (which I agree with totally). I do think the school got a little over-zealous with E.'s response.

December 22, 2008 10:01 PM
 

Debra said:

I hope E doesn't have a false sense of security regarding this pocket knife. It would take to long to get out the knife and to pull a blade out, and, as stated above, he would be easily disarmed. And that's not even factoring in panic and disbelief. The human body is an excellent weapon. If a few defense techniques were practiced regularly, his response time would be faster and more effective. Plus, using one's voice. Pocket knives are really only handy for minor minor chores. Remember, weapons (including pepper spray) can be used against the victim, too.

December 23, 2008 10:29 AM
 

Carol said:

I agree that boys and girls should be allowed to carry a pocketknife.  I carry one everywhere I go (except the airport).  They are so very useful.  The problem is not the pocketknife, its the kids whose parents have not taught them respect and responsibility toward living beings and personal space.  

December 23, 2008 1:53 PM
 

Liz said:

I have an 8 year old boy and what we have tried to impress on him most is that an adult would be bigger and stronger. That said, we have also impressed on him that the hardest kick he can muster up in the nads (for a male attacker) followed by running like hell screaming "fire fire" presents the best probability of escape. The kick would hopefully have would be attacker down long enough for him to get away to safety. And "fire" because people respond more to cries of "fire" than cries of "help".

December 24, 2008 4:15 AM
 

Clare said:

Although I agree with fighting back against attackers and think pocketknives are great for kids I was always taught the greatest reason for not having a weapon is that statistically you are more likely to be hurt by your own weapon. If the attacker is stronger anyway and likely t disarm the child why give them another way to harm them.

December 26, 2008 5:15 AM
 

Jenni said:

As the mom of a 6-year-old boy, I frequently hear my son say he would physically harm a burglar, etc., if given the chance. I then have to come up with a way to teach him that though he THINKS he would be able to choke (or worse) the "bad gay or gal," he likely would need to find an alternative course of action. I've been working to get a local child safety specialist a gig at my son's school, and I've even offered to pay half of her speaking fee, so strongly do I believe in her messages for kids. It never occurred to me to give my son a pocket knife, nor to teach him how to use one in the event that he needed to for self-defense. We talk a great deal about dangerous situations and recognizing your gut feeling of trouble. But then during his kindergarten year, an older boy on the school bus convinced him to do something he shouldn't have by promising a gift the next day. It taught me that older kids will also victimize younger children, it's not just adults.

December 29, 2008 10:47 AM
 

Kathi said:

When our son was in Cub Scouts he learned how safely to use pocketknives, as well as saws and axes. It seems to give the boys a sense of being 'grown-up' enough to use these tools, as well as a place to use them (camping, etc). I highly recommend scouting as a way to help raise strong and independent men. He earned his Eagle rank and is now serving in the Navy.

January 30, 2009 12:25 PM
 

Acai Berry Edge said:

Wow, I'm very impressed with the job you set out to accomplish. Safety with people, objects and the entire world is a strong lesson to learn for any child. Great work. :]

March 15, 2009 3:30 AM

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