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Pregcellent: Does Being Pregnant Hurt Your Chances of Getting Hired?

Ummm, yeah. It's shouldn't, legally or ethically, but I really do think that for most mamas-to-be, it might. At least that's my feeling and was my feeling from the early days of my pregnancy on. I was freelancing for a large fundraising corporation when I found out I was barely pregnant. I was well into the symptoms but weeks away from telling my parents when I met with my supervisor about an opening she had for a full-time employee on her staff. I wasn't sold on working for her permanently but the decision made itself when she leaned across the desk and aggressively, flippantly said, "I'd love to hire you if you can promise me you won't get pregnant any time soon or anything like that..I'd need at least a year commitment on that."

This was a woman with two kids who fought her way into the executive offices after years as a stay at home mom and yet, there she was putting my fertility at the top of my resume. I didn't want this woman choosing my take-out lunch order for me let alone when I'd grow a human in my body and welcome a child into our family.  The job opportunity (obviously) didn't go anywhere and two weeks later, I quit the whole freelancing gig altogether. I never told her I was already pregnant but I also fretted about working before the birth of my child and seriously doubted I could get a job at Starbucks once my belly started poking out.

I know my experience is total bullshit and also not extraordinary and this saddens and infuriates me. I know this because I've heard many women debating the right timing to share their pregnancy news with a supervisor, a new boss or even the person interviewing them for a fabulous new job. I don't just hate that people don't think women who are or might be pregnant should cast aside the classifieds with caffeine and lunch meat, but I hate that women doubt whether they should even apply for a job if they're even thinking about conceiving.

Some people (apparently those who haven't seen a copy of Ms. magazine ever) really believe that it is unfair for women to expect or pursue anything professionally once their wombs are occupied.  And while other folks can site stats and crunch numbers about maternity leave and absenteeism, I think the bigger question is, "Do we socially and professionally value women who are choosing motherhood and careers at all?" Sure, it is a question for the ages, but one we need to continue to ask, to talk with among other job candidates, demand responses to from business owners and hiring squads and managers, and ask ourselves as we belly up to the reality.

There's a hot-button conversation going on over at Confessions of a Community College Dean about pregnancy and breaking into academia (so hot that it has been noted by the Chronicle of Higher Education). The dean himself has a fabulous response to a question about how much pregnancy factors into hiring decisions and the comments that follow are quite heated and interesting as well.

Whether you are an academic or an artist or an inventory stocker at Gap, have you ever been worried about being hired or promoted because you were pregnant or even just considering conception?


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Comments

 

Charlene said:

I was working at a travel agency for just over a month when I found out I was pregnant. I had called in sick earlier that week and they were teasing me that it was morning sickness as I was newly married. Well, I ended up taking a test and there I was pregnant.

I really felt that I had a good working relationship with everyone there so I felt free to tell them our good news. Well three days later I was fired. Under grounds that I was still in my probation and I wasn't a "good fit".

I was going to take it to the labour board but I didn't think it was worth my time and effort.

I applied at a few different jobs while trying to hide the fact that I was pregnant. I was riddled with guilt about it though. So I decided to do temp work until the baby comes.

I think there is definitly discrimnation against pregnant women or even women in their child bearing years.

I really think people should value the choice of motherhood. Its become so common and accepted for women to be working that when you choose not to you get all kinds of opinions.

I have been getting alot of there is no reason for you to stay home. You should be working. I happen to feel raising my child is alot more important.

July 11, 2007 3:44 PM
 

dorothy said:

My job was eliminated when I was about to start the third trimester of my second pregnancy. i had been in the position almost 10 years and they are supposed to be working on finding me another spot in the company. My daughter is 12 weeks old now and I'm still looking. Though my employer is touted as being "family friendly" in national media, I am not seeing it.

July 11, 2007 3:56 PM
 

AmyinMotown said:

I am a freelancer, and just had to turn down being considered for a very lucrative and great yearlong contract because I am 8 weeks pregnant. I didn't feel it was fair to my client or to HER client to work 7 months, go on leave for awhile, and then maybe go back to finish it out. When I was pregnant with my first, I didn't tell any of the editors I worked with until I was like a month away from delivering because I didn't want to suddenly be doing a bad job.  I must say when I was newly married and working at a staff jjob, no one was stupid enough to ask me about family plans.

July 11, 2007 4:23 PM
 

LogicalMama said:

When I got pregnant the first time, I was working for a start up company that I had devoted a LOT of time to for very little pay. They had just had a hiring surge and I was 6 weeks from my review where I was told I would receive a "guaranteed" 20% salary increase. Well, I suffered extreme pregnancy sickness. 24/7. I carried a bucket with me everywhere and showed up to work even when I shouldn't have. But I did take a few days off and I ended up bringing in a doctors note and sharing my news before I really wanted to b/c of the sickness.

During my review, they informed me that they were cutting back my hours to part time and that I would receive a pay CUT, not the due increase. They wanted me to sign a contract agreeing to these terms.

I left the office that day and contacted an attorney. She sent a letter letting them know that they were discriminating against me and that I would not be signing their letter. She gave them two weeks to respond before we would move forward.

In the meantime, I continued to work nervously and sickly! It was crazy. On the cutoff date, the CEO brought me in to a conference room and told me he was pissed I hired an attorney. He didn't like being backed against a wall, but he also had not known that my supervisor attempted to get me out (the intent of cutting my hours was in hopes I'd quit knowing I needed fulltime work!). I told him that I just wanted to keep my job as it was.

In short, I got my job back (unfortunately, without the increase!) and my supervisor was fired! I was sent to another department with a fabulous supervisor. Unfortunately, I never did receive the increase and my mild success was shortlived as I was laid off within the year that I came back from maternity leave (and so was my supervisor!).

July 11, 2007 4:45 PM
 

RachelZ said:

Ugh.  How stupid that we even need to debate this, but here we are.  I started a very excellent job in October 2005 that was long-term temporary with a very very good chance of a full-time hire.

Then I got knocked up.  Luckily, they allowed me to work as an "independent contractor" (that's TEMP, to you and me) until the baby but that permanent job offer never came.  

That was a huge, gigantic factor in my decision to be a Professional Mama, and I'm okay with being a little poorer, but much happier in my current "job."  Sure, my boss is only a year old and barfs on me whether I do a good job or not, but she also doesn't require me to wear pantyhose.  Or change out of my jammies at all, for that matter.

July 11, 2007 5:35 PM
 

Karen Murphy said:

I became a SAHM because I moved to the other end of the state at 5 months pregnant and I knew no one would hire me.  The company I had worked for had been paying for me to obtain a professional designation in my field but then did a 180 right after I announced I was getting married and required me (but no one else doing this) to sign a statement assuring them I'd stay with the company for a certain length of time if they paid for my last class.  I told them where to stick it and within 6 months was married, knocked up, and moving.  3 kids later, I work from home.

We ALL lose in these situations.  Women should not be forced to consider that their pregnancy changes anything, unless they choose for it to.  Pregnancy should be supported in society the way old age should be.  ALL facets of the life cycle should be supported, but they aren't.  Sad fact but true.

July 11, 2007 5:56 PM
 

crunchy said:

I was canned from a job and I know it was because (partialy) of being pregnant....and they new it too when I sought legal counsel.

I didn't bother applying for permanent positions when pregnant...I did temp work instead.

July 11, 2007 7:03 PM
 

Maureen said:

Where do these companies think their workers are going to come from in 25 years?  From a woman's body... duh!  This is so wrong.  I am lucky to have worked for a family business for the last 12 years.  I've taken maternity leave with both of my children (3 months each time) and I'm lucky enough now that I have the option to telecommute.  But is it so bad for business if a woman is going to have to take off three months of leave?  Just because she is pregnant doesn't mean her job performance is going to suffer... in fact, she might just work even harder to prove herself worthy.  I work my butt off in the part time hours I now work and I perform just as well as when I was working full time.  We are lucky to live in an age when fathers take time off to take kids to doctor appointments and such so the role of parenting isn't left soley to the mother.  

We're humans, we're women, sometimes we decide to start a family, but that doesn't make us less worthy of employment.

July 12, 2007 12:16 AM
 

Michelle said:

I sympathize with these stories of women who are passed over for promotions and pay raises while pregnant, which is clearly unethical, illegal and unacceptable. I have a three children and a great career, and each place I've worked has been tremendously flexible when I've taken maternity leave. I've been really lucky that way.

But not getting hired while pregnant? I can sympathize with the business on this. If I am a small business owner and looking to hire a person for a key position, I'm going to hesitate before hiring someone who is pregnant (which translates into time off and an unfilled position) vs someone equally qualified that is not. If I am looking to hire a freelancer for a year-long project and someone is 3 months pregnant, I'm going to hesitate before hiring that person because they will clearly not be around throughout the project. I think that's just reality.

July 12, 2007 8:52 AM
 

Mommyca said:

I was not fired or passed up for a job while pregnant, but when I returned from my maternity leave, I was told I couldn't have extra help any more,  which was definitely a challenge considering I had to pump at work 3 times a day and I wanted to go back home early to be with my baby. Sufficient is to say that my job performance suffered. but at the end it helped make up my mind about changing careers. Anyway, my boss (a woman) told me that I shouldn't have gotten pregnant without knowing about the stability of my positions (actually when i was 6 months pregnant). it is an unfair world out there for women who want to work and have a family...

July 12, 2007 10:52 AM
 

wwbd said:

Why don't we ask men if they are planning to start a family when they apply for a job? I guess it's because they only take off a few weeks after the birth, but isn't that in of itself a problem? It would be nice if men could be as involved in infant childcare as women are. No one questions the job commitment of a man with a family, but will often wonder if a woman will let her family interfere. Instead of being hard on women, I think we should be expecting more of men. Perhaps our culture places too much importance on work and not enough on family.

July 12, 2007 5:05 PM
 

Steff said:

I decided to get pregnant while I was underemployed 1) because I thought my boss was a nice person, especially since her daughter was pregnant (I was misled about how nice she was) and 2) because I figured if I didn't get pregnant at that point, I might be waiting a while. But then I was sort of bound to that job, because I couldn't really go looking for anything else (my field is construction management, which is very male-dominated). I did get another part time job, so at one point I was working 24 hours at her job and 40 hours at the other (at night, mostly), just to help make ends meet.

I figure it was smarter not to show my face while I was pregnant, that way it will be easier to get a job now that I'm not at any construction company here in town. It just wasn't worth tainting the water, if ou will.

July 13, 2007 11:02 AM
 

Andrea said:

When I interviewed at my current job, I was four months pregnant and in need of medical insurance.  They didn't ask if I was pregnant and I didn't volunteer the info.  When I was asked three months later if I was pregnant (guess that I couldn't hide the little belly anymore), I admitted that I was and my due date, which was only 2 months away by that time.  My supervisor said that he wished that I'd told him when I'd interviewed about my pregnancy, but I replied that he probably wouldn't have hired me, if I had.  I ended up getting a lot of support as a single mom from the guys (yep, all of them) and when I returned from maternity leave and pumped 2 times a day in the conference room, got equal support.  Other than one joking comment about using my expressed for coffee creamer (to which I replied, "go ahead, if you really want to, I'll make more" which ended all future comments from them)I received lots of baby gifts from the guys and lots of support.  Now, I'm married and just found out that I am pregnant with my second child, which we are thrilled about.  I hope it all works out as smoothly as before, but I'm a little concerned about making any announcements just yet.  Maybe I'll wait until I'm asked again?!  

July 26, 2007 10:29 AM
 

Strollerderby said:

I get it. I do. It was late on a Friday and you were looking forward to getting home. To the weekend. To drinks. Whatever. You had no time for the SD. Fine. Be that way. But you're missing out, lemmie tell ya. It's Saturday now, and thankfully

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