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Top OB: Keep Men Out of Delivery Room

Posted by Madeline Holler

Michel Odent is a big name French obstetrician among natural and homebirth advocates. He's attended more than 15,000 births and written lots of books. He thinks midwives should be present for most births and that homebirth is better than hospital birth in most situations. He's all love, touch, peace, quiet, bond, bond, bond when it comes to women and birth -- a definite shift from the way things were when he started in the biz a half a billion years ago.

However! He has recently come out against one of the hallmarks of modern, evolved, woman-centered birth as we know it today. He thinks men should be nearby -- but not present -- at birth.

Huh.

Here's a bit of what he wrote in the Daily Mail:

... That there is little good to come for either sex from having a man at the birth of a child.

For her, his presence is a hindrance, and a significant factor in why labours are longer, more painful and more likely to result in intervention than ever.

As for the effect on a man - well, was I surprised to hear a friend of mine state that watching his wife giving birth had started a chain of events that led to the couple's divorce?

Okay, there, Dr. Odent. First, I think you need to settle down -- that divorce has got you totally freaked out. Second, you complain later that there hasn't been any scientific study on the effect of men's presence, so your anecdotes aren't exactly meaningful. Third, a couple of divorces/mother-child abandonments after 15,000 births? That's actually pretty good, non?

He goes on to say that men in the delivery room might be responsible for the increase in interventions and c-sections, because labor is being delayed or prolonged since women aren't relaxed enough to give birth with a man in the room. 

Look, I'm not about to argue that watching your partner crap on the bed or push out a placenta is every (any?) person's form of fun. I'd even say that for some it's a real dread. Those people should be allowed to opt out. And knowing their husbands won't be comfortable seeing all that is certain to make some women uncomfortable or hesitant, and all that is just fine. Men who don't want to attend a birth shouldn't be stigmatized (which, my guess is, they are to some degree). And women who don't want their husbands/partners present shouldn't feel bad about making other arrangements.

But I still wouldn't discount every guy's presence as a hindrance to labor.

For me, my husband was a presence I can't imagine having been without. Who else but him knows that a subtle lift of my left eyebrow means shut the fucking midwife up (I was transitioning)? Who else knows to not laugh at my "jokes" during labor and instead give me looks of pity (but not too long or too pitiful). 

Odent says the high-adrenalin response of a husband's fear is contagious and affects the moms and the labor. That might be true, but is every man scared of birth? Panicky? Not even.

All that said, I wonder if there aren't some women who think their births would have gone better without their husband/partners but didn't dare say anything. Any men feel like they had no choice but to stand there on the business end feeling totally uncomfortable?

Also, anybody find it weird that Odent's reporting these reactions of women due to men in the birthing room -- they sound like firsthand accounts -- and, well, Dr. Odent himself is a guy? How does that square with his argument?

 

Photo: BabyandPregnancy.co.uk 


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Comments

 

Petey said:

Personally I think it's grade A B.S.  I like to think that I was a big help to my wife when it was too late for an epidural and she said she felt like dying giving birth naturally to our 10 lbs 13 oz son.  That being said every woman and man are different and have their own experiences and emotions.  Some may agree with Dr. Odent and not want to be present nor feel like they are being helpful during labour.

April 16, 2008 3:27 PM
 

Larissa said:

As a doula, I have seen clients who cling to me more than their spouses for support.  And I have seen the opposite as well.  As you say, it is a case by case thing.  But recognizing that some men may not feel comfortable in the nitty gritty part of birth and that some women may feel more comfortable without their partners present would take us a long way toward allowing women to birth how THEY feel most comfortable instead of assigning them an automatic script, be it medical or "natural".  How about individual?

April 16, 2008 3:31 PM
 

EG said:

I swear the pain got worse when my husband left the room.  I say it's up to Mom.

April 16, 2008 3:33 PM
 

aaustin said:

Baloney.

My husband was present for both of my children's birth.  I did both without pain meds.  I give birth insanely fast - 3 hours and 45 minutes for #1, and 1 hour 9 minutes for #2, and before you think that I get off easy, let me just say that I cram all the pain of a 10 or 12 hour labor into that amount of time.  It is intense.

My husband was right with me the entire time, both times.  He was incredible.  He held my hand, talked me through, looked into my eyes, rubbed my back, danced with me, advocated for me with the medical staff, and was basically a superhero through the whole experience.  I have told him many times, without an ounce of hyperbole, that I don't think I could give birth without him.  

He was so "in the zone" with me with #2 that we didn't even notice that they'd turned on the lights and sirens (because she was coming SO fast, and no one was ready).  It was like we were on our own planet.  She came so quickly that my dad, my step-mom, and my sister were in the room too (they didn't have time to leave, and got trapped by the equipment and all the people when the lights and sirens went off).  

If having a man in the room slows things down, well, I want the entire college football team to be there next time.  There IS such a thing as too fast - scary fast.  I think this doctor is full of bull, and may have issues of his own about seeing his own wife give birth.

April 16, 2008 4:30 PM
 

Mike Adamick (Cry It Out!) said:

Grade A b.s. just about covers, as mentioned above. My wife leaned on me for support when confronted with a horrible nurse, and I'd like to think I'd do the same if I was pushing something that weighed 8 pounds out of me. Isn't this what partners are for?

April 16, 2008 5:04 PM
 

leahsmom said:

I say  up to - not mom - but both.  My husband initially really wanted to be present, but I knew myself well enough to know that I'd be really preoccupied with him and not able to focus on what was going on with my body. So I asked him to head out for a breather with family when the actual pushing started.  And it worked well for both of us.  But I don't think I should have made the call on my own, and I think he should have been allowed to be there if we wanted him to be.

April 16, 2008 6:33 PM
 

steffmarcusky said:

I didn't want my mom present - she can be a pain in the ass - but she made it with 30 minutes to spare. But I really appreciated by husband there - I really felt like screaming that no one but him should have been counting - my mom and the nurse were, too, but I didn't. But I would have been just fine with just him and 1 nurse (and the doctor hen it was time for him). I can't imagine him not having been there.

April 16, 2008 8:11 PM
 

km said:

I couldn't imagine not having my dh there, either.  He was the only one I could imagine leaning on and squeezing his hand, and giving him the evil eye when I found him reading magazines while I was sleeping in between contractions.

That being said, I forbade him from going down to the "business end" (which I think he was secretly relieved about), and he flat out refused to cut the boys' cords.

April 16, 2008 9:02 PM
 

niallsmama said:

I told my honey to "go make cookies"  while I begged for my doula to rub my lower back. I think the guy is on to something, but, to each their own.

April 16, 2008 11:46 PM
 

niallsmama said:

I told my honey to "go make cookies"  while I begged for my doula to rub my lower back. I think the guy is on to something, but, to each their own.

April 16, 2008 11:47 PM
 

Suz said:

I agree, in that my husband was very anxious during labor and it did contribute to my anxiety. I wish he could have been a calming, helpful presence, but he wasn't. Still, I would have been very hurt and disappointed (especially with my first) if he had chosen not to be there. I think giving that choice would cause more problems in the family, and in the relationship, than it would solve.

April 17, 2008 12:25 PM

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