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Dad arrested for leaving son at McDonald's

Posted by Brett Singer

Dave Lieber, a columnist for the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, was arrested for leaving his son at McDonald'sSee if you can follow this: Dave Lieber, a columnist for the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, got into an argument with his 11 year old son over breakfast at McDonald's (perhaps the boy ate his McGriddle?). Lieber got so angry with the boy that he drove away, leaving him in the parking lot, which was "a few blocks" from their home. He then thought better of it and came back to pick him up a few minutes later, only to find that the police had been called. No charges were filed, and Lieber wrote about the incident in his August 15th column. He acknowledged that he had "made a stupid and quite serious mistake…I could have exposed my son to grave danger. I do know that. But in the moment of anger, I didn’t think clearly." He called The Parenting Center in Fort Worth, a nonprofit that offers counseling to local families. They gave him some good advice in case this situation ever happens again, like "don't take it personally when fighting with your child," that sort of thing.

HOWEVER, two weeks later, after "additional investigation", he was arrested on charges of "child abandonment with intent to return and child abandonment/endangering a child." Lieber is free on relatively modest $4,000 bail, but is still charged with two felonies.

There's an interesting line in his August 15th column: "back in the 1960s, if my parents had told me to 'walk home by yourself' when I misbehaved, no one would have thought twice…But what flew years ago doesn’t fly today."

I can't imagine doing something like this, and only partly because we don't eat at McDonald's. The felony charges seem extreme, however. When I was 11, I could walk to the store to buy comic books (and other things), and I lived in the Bronx. Isn't this the same thing? Or should intent –Lieber left his son in the parking lot out of anger – be a factor? Has anyone out there ever had an experience like this?

(Note: the image is from Dave Lieber's website, YankeeCowboy.com. That's a picture of him.)

Sources: Statesman.com, Star-Telegram

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Comments

 

crysbellis said:

my brother and i were latchkey kids at a young age, and were permitted to go to the park, store, etc., by ourselves as children. i agree that the guy seriously screwed up, but the charges do seem strangely harsh.  this seems like a case of overreaction, probably on the part of child protective services. if one boneheaded move is all it takes to incur those kinds of felonies, then by that logic, people who really do abandon, neglect, or abuse their children would all be in jail by now.  just saying.

August 30, 2008 3:19 PM
 

esther said:

When I was in college, I worked at a Barnes and Noble. One day a woman came in with her son (about 3-4 years old). While they were standing in line, the boy started complaining loudly that he had to pee. The mother kept telling him to hold it until, of course, he wet himself.

The most horrible thing is, she took him into the bathroom, stripped him naked, and told him to wait for her in the bathroom while she went across the street to Walmart to buy him more clothes. I kept going into the bathroom to check on the little boy, who was scared and humiliated. I asked my boss if we should call the police, but she told me to keep my eye on the boy and not "cause trouble".

The woman was gone for 45 minutes, and when she got back she yelled at me for harassing her son. I still wish that I would have called the cops.

August 30, 2008 3:36 PM
 

BBBGMOM said:

My first reaction was - boy I know how he felt!  As a mother of a "tween" (10.5 years old) I can imagine being exasperated enough to "abandon" my son a few blocks from home.  Heck I actually let him walk a few blocks and bike a couple of miles without any supervision even when I'm not mad!

But, tempted as it might be, I don't think I would quite as far as the columnist did... maybe when he's fourteen, though.

So, my question is, would the cops have gotten involved if the boy had been sent to McD's to pick up his own McMuffin without the angry part?  I wonder, too, Brett, if the "out of anger" thing is what tipped this.  Did the boy cry and tell people his dad ditched?  (Sorry - I have not yet read the column, which might answer that question.)

Esther's story made me cry.  A four year old with a pee accident is sooooo different than an eleven year old.  Mama sounds like a messed up lady.  That poor boy.  CPS should've swooped in.  

August 30, 2008 4:01 PM
 

Bethie said:

Yeah, you can send a kid to the corner alone to buy the McDonald's food but you should never ever EVER leave your kid somewhere because you are angry with them.  What a way to scare the sh** out of them and give them abandonment issues for life.  Please people, use your head.

August 30, 2008 5:08 PM
 

Cassie said:

When my son was 12 he and his buddy decided to shop lift at a local drugstore.  When I arrived the manager greeted me wiht ,

"Are you related to this two little foul mouthed punks?"  I was so mad I thought my head would explode.  The boys had been cussing at the manager and saying they would not get into trouble.  They decided not to press charges.  They released the two boys to me.  I walked with them outside and then they tried to get into my car.  I locked the doors and told them to walk home.  They did and never said a word about it.  

August 30, 2008 7:45 PM
 

BBBGMOM said:

You go, Cassie ... that's what I would've done, too.  All the while crying in my car about how the heck I was going to reform my kid.  Parenting is tough!

August 30, 2008 8:49 PM
 

chyna823 said:

Leaving the kid was probably not the wisest move, but involving CPS and charging this guy is utterly ridiculous. The kid is 11, not 4. Like other posters have said, if this kid walked to McD's himself to get breakfast, no one would say boo.

When I was 11, I was babysitting other people's babies.

August 31, 2008 10:15 AM
 

Cindy said:

I saw a woman leave her tween before, I was watching in the parking lot. She tried for several minutes to get him in the car and he would not budge so she left him. She did come back about 5 minutes later and the boy finally got in the car. Oh, and the boy did threaten to call the cops if she left him.

When I was about that age my parents left me (similar situation, except I was not being defiant) and came back to get me. I know I was not harmed because of the incident and I learned a good lesson from it. No bitterness towards my parents, no scarring.

He probally would have been best off though to handle the incident with the kid when they got home.

August 31, 2008 12:53 PM
 

Poot said:

Abandonment issues the rest of their life? Darlin', you gotta be kidding me. Oh yeah, let the kid act like a disrespectful little pr*ck, that'll be just fine the rest of his life when you reward him for his behavior by letting him have his way... but we can't let him walk home--he may feel.... abandoned! Good lord, and we wonder what the hell is wrong with kids these days.

August 31, 2008 2:06 PM
 

Laura said:

and could someone please tell us what recourse Dad had for the kid who was acting up? So tired of people saying parents can't discipline - leaving him might have been silly but bet the brat could have walked home from where they were - betcha!! LOL  Young people have lost their respect and yet we continue to let them!

September 15, 2008 11:39 AM

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