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They Say: no link between autism and measles vaccine

Posted by Brett Singer

No link between MMR measles vaccine and autismThis news is unfortunately not likely to solve anyone's questions about whether or not vaccines are a cause of autism.

"Dr. W. Ian Lipkin of Columbia University, collaborating with a team from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Massachusetts General Hospital, and Trinity College in Dublin, tackled the hot-button question: whether the MMR vaccine causes autism.

"'We are persuaded there is no link,' said Lipkin, director of the center on infection and immunity at Columbia's Mailman School of Public Health in Manhattan."


HOWEVER…

"The study was not designed to address other rumored theories of autism's cause, such as thimerosal, the much-debated mercury-based preservative in some other vaccines, Lipkin said."

Now, as usual, the devil is in the details. The 1998 study that linked MMR vaccines to autism was based on a whopping 12 children. I'm no scientist (nor have I played one on TV) but that doesn't sound like a very large sample base.

For this new study, "Lipkin and colleagues searched for traces of genetic material linked to the virus in intestinal tissue taken from 25 children with autism and gastrointestinal problems. They compared the samples to those from 13 children without autism but with intestinal problems. In 24 of the group of 25 and in 12 of the 13, there was no evidence of viral persistence, leading researchers to conclude the vaccine did not cause autism or gastrointestinal problems." So it’s a larger group of kids. Not that many, but on the surface it sounds more valid.

HOWEVER…

Why not do a study on thimerosal, which contains, as Jenny McCarthy calls it, "frickin' mercury"? Wouldn't that be, like, actually useful?

In theory, this study will put to rest parents' fears about this particular vaccine. Of course, as the great Homer Simpson once said, communism works -- in theory. In other words, I doubt this news will do anything to change anybody's mind one way or the other.

source: Newsday

image: timesonline.typepad.com

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Comments

 

Phx/GAmom said:

It's difficult to do a study on thimerosal because a)childhood vaccines no longer contain it; and b) who is going to volunteer themselves, let alone their child for such a study?

I aggree wholeheartedly with your final statement....those who are pro-vaccine are likely to stay that way (it reinforces their belief) and those who are anti are likely to find many faults (valid and otherwise)with this study.

September 4, 2008 1:42 PM
 

That Neil Guy said:

Thimerosal hasn't been present in vaccines for years now, yet there's been no drop in autism rates since then. Seems to me a pretty easy conclusion to make.

September 4, 2008 1:57 PM
 

That Neil Guy said:

Thimerosal hasn't been present in vaccines for years now, yet there's been no drop in autism rates since then. Seems to me a pretty easy conclusion to make.

September 4, 2008 1:57 PM
 

renee said:

Of course there have been studies of thimerosal--not randomized controlled trials, but observational studies comparing people who got it to those who didn't.  I've got one right here: "Early Thimerosal Exposure and Neuropsychological Outcomes at 7 to 10 Years," from the New England Journal of Medicine, September 27, 2007.  The conclusion was that exposure to thimerosal from vaccines was not associated with any deficits in neuro-psychological functioning at age 7 to 10 years. (The outcomes studied did not, however, include autism).  The effects of exposure to mercury have also been studied by comparing people with differing levels of fish consumption.

September 4, 2008 2:23 PM
 

num nums said:

That Neil Guy is wrong about no thimerosol/mercury in vaccines.

Got to www.thevaccinebook.com

A "Dr. Sears Parenting"  book and related site.

Anybody w/8th grade educ, including That Neil Guy, can understand this kind of writing.

September 4, 2008 2:31 PM
 

Virginia said:

This is not a "Study" and you're wrong to promote it with such a headline--as is Newsday.

September 4, 2008 2:32 PM
 

that guy said:

virginia-

how is this not a study?  it was a case control study in which children with autism and GI problems were compared to children without autism with GI problems.......conducted out of Columbia University, Massachusetts General Hospital and Harvard University........

September 4, 2008 2:56 PM
 

That Neil Guy said:

I suspect that article will mention that it's in some doses of flu shots. So why not just avoid the flu shot? Am I missing something here?

September 4, 2008 4:20 PM
 

That Neil Guy said:

And sorry about the double post above. If I could erase one of 'em, I'd do it.

September 4, 2008 4:21 PM
 

That Neil Guy said:

And thanks for the lovely "8th grade education" line. The anonymity of the internet is a wonderful way to pretend you're not dealing with real, feeling human beings and so neglect the basic civilities of one-on-one conversation and civilized discussion. I mean, was that really necessary? I'm just an interested caring father myself.

September 4, 2008 4:25 PM
 

SproutsMama said:

That Niel Guy: thank you! I'm so sick of reading the comments here and seeing people become so nasty. I'm all for discussion and debate, but if you wouldn't say it to someone at a PTA meeting or in a playgroup, you probably shouldn't type it.

September 5, 2008 7:55 AM
 

mays5 said:

More research definitely needs to be done on this subjects as the number of children diagnosed with autism continues to increase.  My understanding is that thimerosol has been pretty much removed from most vaccines.  I'm not sure I believe autism is caused by vaccines per se, but I do think it's very possible something in the vaccines triggers the onset of autism in someone predisposed to it.  There's a great debate about the possible link between vaccines and autism at www.opposingviews.com/questions/are-autism-and-vaccines-linked  Multiple experts from both sides weigh in and make some interesting arguments.

September 18, 2008 6:21 PM

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