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Greenhouse: Bag Tax Bad, Bag Bonus Good

Posted by Amy Kuras

I used to feel like a ridiculous hippie for carrying my own bags to the store, but in the year-ish I have been doing so it's become really common, so common that now I feel shamed when I don’t bring them.

Some stores around here even give you a little discount -- 5 cents or so  -- based on the number of bags you bring. Makes sense to me – not only does it keep bags out of landfills but it saves the store a little money.

Which is why I think Seattle's proposed  "bag tax" is a horrible, horrible idea. It would tax stores at the rate of 20 cents PER BAG for each plastic bag used. Which doesn’t sound too terrible, until you consider the impact this would have on low income consuers already squeezed badly by higher food costs and fuel costs. When you have to plan your food costs very carefully, getting socked with an extra dollar or so to carry the stuff home in something other than your pockets would really hurt.

If you have to take the bus to get to a grocery store and/or walk several blocks there, you may not have a convenient way to schlep along several bags – or what if you're stopping at the market on the way home from work and don’t have your bags with you?

Not only that, but 63 percent of Seattelites oppose the tax. Some don’t think it goes far enough, and most common plastic grocery bags are made from #2 plastic, which is widely recyclable. And still others point out that most people reuse the bags anyway instead of throw them out --- for pet waste or to line trash bags, for example. I know in our house my husband gets a little nervous when I haven’t been collecting enough "poop bags" at the store.

Socking people with a heavy tax doesn’t seem fair – but giving them an incentive to not use the bags does. I'll be interested to see how this plays  out in Seattle.


 


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Comments

 

leahsmom said:

I'm really torn on the bag tax. On the one hand, I agree that I want to avoid socking lower-income consumers out of cash that's insufficient much of the time, in the first place.  On the other, as far as people who have enough to spare the $1.20 or so per trip, I believe and have experienced that a bag bonus isn't enough to create a widespread incentive - but a bag tax, I think, makes a significant mental difference (due to the endowment effect perhaps? en.wikipedia.org/.../Endowment_effect)

September 11, 2008 8:51 AM
 

LThomas said:

I don't think this is such a horrible idea.  If you look at stores like Aldi which sells food at deep discounts they already charge you for bags to keep their costs low.  And plenty of low-income folks shop there as well as other income brackets.  No one says you have to buy canvas bags.  The plastic bags you got on your last trip can just as easily be reused again and again.  As far as not having your bags with you, yes that's happened to me plenty, but the tax would certainly spurn me on to remember.

September 11, 2008 9:19 AM
 

Trying to Help the Planet said:

I'm one of the 37% of Seattlites who supports this measure.  I've been bringing my bags regularly to the grocery store for at least 10 years now and it is an ingrained habit.  I leave them in my car, so they're always there, even if I think of going to the store at the spur of the moment.  

That said, I actually take the bags sometimes, as they come in useful for kitty litter and carrying extra recyclables out.  When the tax was announced, I considered hoarding the bags for a few months, keeping my cloth behind, to help in this adjustment.

The city has plans to give everyone a cloth bag, perhaps multiple bags to lower-income people.  I do not think this will be a regressive tax against the poor.  I think most people on a very limited budget do a good job at stretching their pennies, and remembering the bag is a small thing.

The law also will get rid of Styrofoam containers from restaurants and will eventually require all compostable "plasticware" (made from corn) as well.

One comment:  it is unpopular simply because People Do Not Like Taxes.  Why elect to pay for something that's currently free?  Sometimes we need a little government regulation to spur people to do the right thing.  Businesses would still be happily polluting away (more than they currently do) without government oversight and laws.

Oh, and one more thing--there's a lobbying group comprised of plastic bag manufacturers and grocers actively opposing this.  They got enough signatures to put the issue on the ballot, where voters will likely kill the measure.  That's Seattle process for ya.  So this whole issue is probably moot anyway.

September 11, 2008 7:45 PM
 

Theresa said:

I think the bag tax is a great idea.  I think it's the only way some people are going to change to using reusable bags.  We're seeing now how high gas prices are finally getting  people to choose fuel efficient cars.  When gas was cheap they had no motivation to do it.  Some people will only choose to do the right thing when they are forced to.

September 11, 2008 9:14 PM
 

Charlotte said:

I'm Irish and we've been operating the plastic bag tax since 2002. The decrease in roadside rubbish, the increase in awareness of what we use and how our goods are recycled has been huge. There was a 90% derease in the number of plastic bags used.

As we became used to the simplicity of it, it has lead to garbage collection becoming "pay as you weight", so you only pay for the amount of rubbish you actually throw out. Rubbish collectors also collect your recyclables at no extra cost and provide information on composting.

Basically it's about becoming aware of impact on the world around us.

Paper bags are still acceptable at no charge if the stores wish to provides them. Small plastic bags are free for fish/meat and for weighed goods.

But now you will automatically be asked, "Do you want a bag?" while making your purchase and we've become very used to having them with us. In the car, for the weekly shopping, small roll up ones in your handbag for quick purchases, and those without a convenient place to stash them will still surprise you in the queue by going "hold on a moment" rooting into the back pocket of their jeans and coming up with a small, folded up previously used plastic bag.

I'd say that this change along with the smoking ban in Ireland (2004) have the most made massive differences to our day to day environment. (And I was a smoker up to the day of the ban! I still miss it... I loved smoking. But sometimes you have to just suck it up and be grown up about life!)

September 12, 2008 6:54 AM

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