Strollerderby

I probably will hate myself for making this comment. . . but when I was little, I always thought I smelled like onions when I got sweaty!  Thank you, science!

So, in a nutshell, what you are telling us is that society has no obligation to women who stay home, just those who work outside the home.  

And I hope family planning means that those of us who have fertility issues will be covered too. Fertility drugs are expensive, as are the procedures. Unless, family planning only covers those who wish to terminate pregnancies and use birth control.

"Rub them together you've got a lovely tarte flambee!"

hahahahahahahaha! You made my day with that one.

I am a white woman who is a little tired of being told how I feel about "women of color." I can only hope Michelle Obama will carry herself with the grace and dignity that Mrs. Laura Bush did. This vote should have shown most Americans that most Americans are not racists. Now, can we please move on to actual issues...

Coverage for fertility treatments? Give me a break. If my tax money had gone to pay for those octuplets that just appeared - the delivery alone probably cost half a million dollars, not to mention the two months minimum the doctors expect each of them to be in the NICU, should they all survive...and that's just the first few months of their lives - I'd be furious!

Sheri,

You cannot be serious. If you choose to stay at home, that is a noble thing, but not something that deserves a paycheck from the government.

If you choose to seek fertility treatments (and I say this as someone who is the result of those treatments), that is your personal choice and is a luxury. Luxuries, at least the last time I checked, are not paid for by the government.

Family planning is something that benefits the entire community, not just two individuals. Birth control is something that keeps women safe. Comparing fertility treatments with birth control is apples and oranges.

Also, last time I checked terminating a pregnancy is most often for a medical issue? Should we all be relegated back to the good old wire hanger and stair route?

I'm sorry that issues close to your heart don't qualify for government assistance, but there is a difference between a need and a want.

I also wanted to comment about insurance paying for fertility treatments. Especially if we go toward universal healthcare, the only way we can pay for this is to concentrate on proven treatments that have a decent chance of working. For IVF, I know it is very expensive, and has a low chance of working. This therefore would most likely not be covered by universal healthcare. Maybe if there were some parameters around it, like the woman has to be under a certain age, and has not had any kids before, etc.

I myself had fertility issues, and I paid out of pocket. I never thought this was something that should be paid for.

I am also a stay at home mom. I have to admit, I don't understand what you mean by society having an obligation to those of us who stay home.

i wish i could be more enthusiastic about the birth of these octuplets, but i'm not. of course i'm glad they're all alive and healthy (at least for now), but i can't help but feeling like <a href="urbzen.com/.../">their mother did an increadibly insane/selfish thing</a>. getting pregnant and having a baby you can't support by accident is one thing--it sucks, but it happens. but having eight viable embryos implanted when you already have six children at home? that's just selfish and cruel, if you ask me.

That crazy bitch who just had htose octopulets has 6 kids under the age of 9 already, lives with her parents, is not married and never has been and has no job!  Hooray for fertility treatments!  Now we have even more welfare abusers to pay for and their medical bills!  People like that nut make the insurance companies even less likely to pay for fertiity treatments.

Alice, I was thinking exactly the same thing.

The fertility doctor has not been identified. There is some rumor (this really is just a rumor) that she obtained these drugs illegally. I would certainly hope that there was no doctor out there who would give these drugs to someone who already had 6 kids! Including 2-year-old twins. If she gave birth that recently there is no way she could be diagnosed as infertile.

Tarte Flambee - That was the funniest thing I have read in a long time! Right on!!!