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Kids Don't Pay Taxes: Get Them Out of Tea Parties

Posted by JeanneSager

The beauty of living in America: every single one of those tea parties was allowed to happen this week. I may not agree with them, and I may have laughed hysterically at the use of the word teabagging, but I respect the "partiers" right to protest.

But when you give your kid a sign that says "We Work. We Pay Taxes. We Pay a Mortgage. No More Bailouts," you've crossed a line. 

Because your kid doesn't do any of the above. At least not the kid in this picture, who looks like he's about eight . . . maybe twelve at the most? Legally, he can't get his working papers for at least another two years, and if you're sending him out to a job so he can pay your mortgage, you could be facing jailtime. 

There was a large outcry by the right wing media back around election time that liberals were hyping their kids up into a frenzy over Obama, and accusations that a legion of us were brainwashing our kids (remember the Bye, Bye Bush video?). Hello, pot, we'd like you to meet your kettle. It is ink black. 

Because a collection of pictures of children "protesting" at Tea Parties around the country collected by the Huffington Post shows a lot of parents making a mockery of their own cause. You have every right to be angry about your taxes, folks. But handing your kid a sign that claims they work and pay a mortgage does what? Shows you're willing to lie to make a point. 

How about a sign that says "We Will Not Go Quietly Into the Socialist Night" held by a kid who looks to be about four? Think a four-year-old has that kind of grasp on Dylan? Or on economic theory? I don't think so. 

There are a few in there that didn't bother me as much. The little girl holding a sign that shows "Democrat" and "Republican" crossed out, followed by "We the People." That's something I'd get behind teaching my kid - bipartisanship. Even the little kids holding signs about the future, reminders not to spend their future, were at least age-appropriate commentary. 

So protest. Take your kids along so they get a sense of the beauty of our country's protection of free speech and how important it is for them to get involved in the political process. But how about trying for a little truth in advertising?

Image: HuffingtonPost

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Comments

 

Lee said:

Whether or not we are willing to admit it, whether we are liberal or conservative, we all raise our children with our own values, politics, and beliefs. They learn cumulatively from our conscious actions and our subconscious influence. I take my children with me into the voting booth and, like the author, see no problem with parents exposing their children to our right as American citizens to peacefully protest our government.  

The sign used as an example may not have been accurate in the hands of an elementary school age child but, by way of contrast -- other examples of children’s signs:

“I read as much of the Stimulus Bill as my Congress.”

“I’m only 11 – I can’t pay for this debt.”

“Don’t bankrupt my future.”

“Congress – Get your hands out of my piggy bank.”

April 18, 2009 5:30 PM
 

Mom from WI said:

Wow- We have Obama to micromanage our country and now Jeanne to micromanage how we parent our children.  Jeanne, it's really none of your business if kids go to protests with their children.  I imagine that you are a lot like the congresswoman who called the participants of tea parties despicable- and was married to a criminal arrested for felony fraud.  I imagine that if you spent more time examining how you parent your own children, instead of others, they would probably be happier and more well adjusted.

April 19, 2009 2:38 PM
 

JeanneSager said:

Actually, Mom from WI, I never said parents shouldn't bring kids to protests - if you read what I wrote, I actually said they SHOULD bring their kids to their protests to teach them about the importance of getting involved in their political system.

IN FACT, my direct quote: "So protest. Take your kids along so they get a sense of the beauty of our country's protection of free speech and how important it is for them to get involved in the political process."

April 19, 2009 3:03 PM
 

patricia said:

I think the headline is very misleading.

April 19, 2009 4:28 PM
 

May said:

The Dylan quote is genius! It's a free country - let them hold whatever damn sign they want! Even if they don't totally grasp what's going on.

April 19, 2009 8:41 PM
 

ChiLaura said:

So, do you think that the sign-giving parents actually EXPECTED anyone to believe that their child pays taxes? Because THAT I would call deception, or an attempt at it.

Chill out.

April 19, 2009 8:42 PM
 

Allie said:

Maybe the kids should have held up signs that said "I love my tax-funded education and can't believe my idiot parents brought me here". Anyone who doesn't want to pay taxes shouldn't be permitted to drive on our nation's roads and highways, call the police, enroll their children in public school, to enter public parks ... the list goes on.

April 19, 2009 9:47 PM
 

Lex said:

Bullshit. Make up your mind. You start off the article complaining that conservatives are crossing a line giving their kids those signs, then come back saying they're hypocrites for complaining when liberals did the same thing (although how you can know that those specific ones were the ones making all that noise is impressive, because I know that you would never stereotype a specific group based upon their beliefs), and then you end the article saying that they should be dragging their kids to protests, just giving them more appropriate signs.

I agree with Patricia- the headline is extremely misleading. In fact, I think this entire article is poorly written and basically reactionary. From my perspective, you wanted to just be able to comment on how conservatives are such idiots for throwing these tea parties but didn't want to come off as such, so you threw in a red herring. The whole quote "I may not agree with them, and I may have laughed hysterically at the use of the word teabagging, but I respect the "partiers" right to protest." came off as vastly condescending, especially using quotes around the word "partiers". You clearly look down on these people, you don't hide it particularly well. Next time, just come out and say what you want to say- you think conservatives are stupid and uneducated- the impression you gave off was, "well, even stupid people have the same rights as we do but it really sucks because it would be better if their vote didn't count." Way to go on showing how you don't discriminate against someone for their beliefs. You really showed me.

April 19, 2009 9:49 PM
 

Patrick said:

Don't get me wrong, but the protests were about a lot more than just taxes. Another big focus was spending, which (whether you like it or not) does effect the future generation.

That, and it's getting kids involved politically at a young age. Whether you agree with the message or not, it's good to get them involved young.

April 20, 2009 1:39 AM
 

Sheri said:

I don't mind paying taxes, I'd rather pay a lower amount though.  I don't mind paying for parks, schools, etc, but I do mind paying for studies on the mating practices of the North American yellow moth (or other similar crap).  But that's just me.

April 20, 2009 9:17 AM
 

Knitty said:

Much as I'm for reading carefully... the headline does not match the conclusions of your post.

Personally, I have no problem with kids at political rallies.  I'd much rather see children at a political rally than at the Hannah Montana concert, ya know?  And today's children are going to inherit an unsurmountable debt from the rest of us.  It isn't fair, and they're not too young to object.

April 20, 2009 12:26 PM
 

poor kids said:

@Jeanne: You agree with the bipartisan sign, so that one's okay, but the kids shouldn't be holding conservative ones? Who's the hypocrite here? This is why I don't think parents should bring kids to protests--all of the adults involved are just using them. Parents use them to garner media attention, and members of the media/blogosphere use them to make hollow political points about what children "should" believe.

April 20, 2009 12:42 PM
 

Treespeed said:

The right has become the looney left! Hilarious.

April 20, 2009 2:11 PM
 

GoFigure said:

Amazing how many people have no qualms about sticking a pro gay marriage sign into their child's hand yet flip out when other parents brings their kids to protest high taxes.

Incredible.

April 20, 2009 2:28 PM
 

JimBWarrior said:

Of couse Kids should be at the Tea Parties

Kids are ABUSED bt Tax Payer funds daily in most if not all Western Countries.

Most certainly mine - New Zealand

Onward - Jim

April 20, 2009 2:35 PM
 

momof3 said:

Way to go Lex.  Very condescending comments.  Not sure who she was trying to kid (no pun intented)here, anyone who reads this blog knows how her wind blows.

If anyone believes that what the government is doing now will not affect our children, they are fooling themselves.  And not one of these "partiers" was saying that no one should pay taxes, ever.  Get real.

Hats off to a large group of Americans who made their voices heard in a calm, non-confrontational manner and wanted to involve their families.

April 20, 2009 3:19 PM
 

Siobhan said:

The children in that picture look like they were sitting beside the sign, not holding it or claiming that they work pay taxes, or mortgage. Often times photos like this get taken out of context. More than likely the parents of the children made the sign, brought it to the tea party, protested while holding the sign for a while, set it down with their kids while they went off to get lemonade or do whatever and while they were gone a photographer came by and snapped a photo. I highly doubt the parents made the sign expecting their kids to hold it and protest for them.

April 20, 2009 3:21 PM
 

Lula said:

As long as no one under the age of 18 was teabagging or being teabagged, I'm content.

April 20, 2009 7:46 PM
 

Rebecca said:

The Huffington Post is famously liberal and so the photos they took showed this slant or chose the outliers to interview or focus on.  The liberal media downplayed this event as a few crazy, racist, uneducated conservatives but it was large, diverse, successful and will continue, in spite of what the liberal media didn't accurately report.  

I hate how the disgusting sexual references were brought up in reference to people who participated.  Shameful.

I loved that families participated.  

I loved reading clever signs being held by kids.

I loved the enthusiasm for a specific cause other than "Change."

Check www.fairtax.org for more info on a great alternative choice to the IRS!  

April 20, 2009 10:34 PM
 

Hetty said:

*shrug* The inaccurate signs held by kids (or just snuggled up to by kids) at the teaparties are about on a par with teeny babies wearing "I (heart) Obama!" onesies. So what? The signs and onesies obviously reflect the parents' biases, and that is as it should be, in our society where parents are free to attempt to inflict their political beliefs on their kids. (The kids have the last laugh when they grow up, of course, and completely ignore what their parents taught them. :)

I took my toddlers to the tea party in my hometown and (gasp!) put signs on their stroller! O, the political incorrectness! Their sign? "Will we be paying *your* debt in *our* old age?" It got a lot of honking and thumbs-ups from passersby.

Finally, as others have noted, the media in general has misrepresented the tea parties. They were held on April 15, but their primary focus was the rampant and yes, even insane spending levels our new president and congress are galloping into. The taxes are a red herring. It's the spending that will bankrupt our society.

April 21, 2009 2:19 AM
 

Dad said:

Sorry - did I miss these protests when president Bush was increasing government spending and running up the debt?

My thought is, if these people don't want to bail out home owners in trouble, so be it. They should have the choice. If they want foreclosed homes in their neighborhoods, and wish to see their property values decline rapidly, they ought to have the choice.

ps - for those saying the kids were not holding the signs, or they were taken out of context, they are probably right, in this instance. But in our local paper, they had direct quotes from kids complaining about taxes. maybe these particular kids were well educated in politics and economics, I don't know. I just know they were quoted.

April 21, 2009 8:27 AM
 

Lex said:

@Dad- even if these kids were expressing an opinion on raising taxes, even if they weren't perfectly educated with complete knowledge on every issue on both sides, so what? Do you think any adult has every single fact straight, with absolute knowledge of what is best in any situation, or they won't express an opinion of it? Or is it just that kids' opinions are worth less than ours? I remember when I was young- only 11 or 12- and I went and talked in front of a city council (probably one of the most terrifying experiences of my childhood) about whether or not the library should be moved- and I've rarely been as angry as I was the next day when an article was written up in the paper denouncing the adults in the situation for "using children to move the voters".

What I got up and talked about then was what I felt then- it applied to me, and I was appalled that I was thought of as a puppet, parroting out words that grownups told me to say. If kids want to say something about this, they have every right to do so- especially since they'll be the ones inheriting this mess.

April 21, 2009 11:04 AM
 

Toby said:

Interesting-complaining about using children to further ones social/political agenda.  No one does this except those mean white conservatives, right?

Just read the posts on the AntiRacist parent and an interesting paradox prevails. On this site white parents will confess their contrived white guilt and often agonize about adopting a "unique" child from "gasp" another culture. What will they teach this child about the evils of white European society?

After Obama's election a parent of Asian descent wrote a letter to her children speaking of her fears that someone (whites of course) would not allow him to take office. She further wrote her children that Americans (white people) never would accept her.  All in all the Left hides its indoctrination under the guise of sensitivity and multiculturalism.

April 21, 2009 1:02 PM
 

Kate Tuttle said:

I don't understand what you're even getting at, Toby, unless you somehow believe that fighting racism means hating white people, or feeling guilty for being white??? Or that attempting to teach children to be sensitive and respectful of others is "indoctrination." Really? I think that's just good manners. I actually think kids at political rallies can be a good idea, especially if they are positive rallies -- you know, for something? So a baby with an Obama onesie (or a McCain onesie) is to me kind of different from dragging your kid to a rally protesting...what? Government spending? Good luck with that, as you drive home on roads paid for by your tax dollars, and drink your water that's processed and cleaned using government money, and so on and so forth.

Unless you live off the grid entirely, complaining about taxation is just ridiculous to me. As Oliver Wendell Holmes said, "I like paying taxes. With them, I buy civilization."

April 21, 2009 3:26 PM
 

JeanneSager said:

Lex: I didn't try to hide that I lean to the liberal side. That's why I started off the post the way I did. I find it interesting that you think that I consider conservatives "stupid and uneducated" simply because I disagree with them. Apparently I don't have that right in your version of America.

Poor Kids: If you read the post, I didn't actually say kids shouldn't hold conservative signs - note my reference to the signs about the kids' futures - but that they should be holding age-appropriate signs.

In fact, the signs about staying out of the piggybank didn't bother me. They are AGE APPROPRIATE. But saying "I work, I pay the mortgage" is not.

Again, I didn't hide the way I lean. I don't have to agree with everything conservatives say. I support their right to say it. Just as I'd hope you support my right to say that a pro-gay marriage sign very much affects my child because she could well grow up to be gay . . . or at the very least has two wonderful uncles who have been denied the chance to have her act as flower girl at their wedding.

If I agreed with the sentiment, I dare say a sign noting "don't spend my future" would be appropriate for a child her age. But I keep coming back to the signs that don't fit . . . that take it a little too far - the ones that ascribe facts to a child that they simply can't get behind. A little kid can like the look of McCain or Obama on TV and suddenly proclaim them their hero (I loved Mookie Wilson, the baseball player as a kid - and my parents aren't Mets fans, so go figure). A kid can't work or pay a mortgage.

And to the person who said clearly that sign wasn't meant to be carried by a child, are you so sure? If you'll note, the child sitting next to him, close enough that you would believe they're together, is sporting his own sign. So this is quite apparently a family that believes in handing their kids signs.

April 22, 2009 10:33 AM
 

Lex said:

Wow. Good comeback. Because that's exactly what I said- that you don't have the right to disagree with people in my so-called version of America. At least I said your article gave me the impression that you were just being incendiary and condescending. Again- my impression. What I was really pointing out was your seeming rudeness and lack of respect for those who do believe differently than you. But go ahead- prove me wrong.

April 22, 2009 1:21 PM
 

GrowUp said:

Jeanne Sager is a person who "laughed hysterically at the use of the word teabagging" do we really need to go any further here??

April 27, 2009 5:28 PM
 

workharder said:

That kid could possibly be in a wealthy family and he might one day face the issues that his parents face and one day he will understand that it is not morely correct to pay for what another person lacks.  People are just mad at the fact that they dont have as much as the next.  How about all you democrats pay my taxes and tell me how you feel. Make your own damn money and pay for your own items.

P.S The photo was totally taken out of context get a life. Get a life lazy fools your end will come very soon.  Just a slight glinch in the matrix for republicans

May 1, 2009 10:28 PM

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Jeanne Sager is a writer who lives in upstate New York with her husband, daughter, a dog and too many cats. She refuses to believe motherhood comes with pumpkin appliqued sweaters, and she';s not ready to apologize for having only one child. She writes about raising her kid in her own hometown and the mom stuff she's not embarrassed to own at her blog, Inside Out (http://jeannesager.blogspot.com), she's contributing editor of Grand Magazine, and she's a regular essayist here on Babble

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