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Boy Scouts Say Your Kid is Too Fat

Posted by JeanneSager

If your little boy is overweight, you better be prepared to break this news: he might not be allowed to join the Boy Scouts with his buddies. 

The Scouts are adding height and weight standards for boys and their adult counterparts who take part in the "high adventure" or extreme events, the kind of activities that often take Scouts and their leaders off into the woods or other places that are far afield from medical assistance. 

The Scouts say the new requirements are for the safety of participants. But parents and a lot of current Scouting participants say they're merely cutting more families out (and I say more because, of course, there's that whole "no gays allowed" thing already going on in the Scouts).

As one major scouting site points out - you can easily be physically fit and not fall within those height to weight guidelines. Besides, there are plenty of Scouting leaders who could stand to lose a few pounds - and we all know how easy it is to get parent volunteers these days (er, NOT). 

Of course, the bigger concern here is what does this say to our kids? That fat kids have yet another barrier in front of them? 

Let's face it - we all know that kids with weight issues also often face self-esteem trouble. A study found that problem increased significantly when kids hit the early teen years, just about the time that Scouts are allowed into the higher adventure activities. It's worth noting too, that this is when kids are at the heigh of puberty, and their bodies are changing significantly - including their heigh to weight ratio.

In other words - it's a risky and difficult time for kids, a time when they would most benefit from a group activity and the ability to participate. A group activity that may even get them off their butts, out from in front of their XBoxes and out climbing trees and hiking forests and . . . um, losing weight, gaining muscle, etc.?

Obviously, I was never a Boy Scout (although they do accept girls for certain events now - especially the adventure groups for teens), but the men I've known who truly enjoyed Scouts were not necessarily your classic buff, rough, tough athletic types. In fact one Eagle Scout I know has battled lifelong weight problems and was unable to play school athletics because he "wasn't good enough." He found his place in Scouts because he didn't have to be masterful at any one thing to succeed.

It might do the Scouts well to mold their programs to the kids rather than expecting kids to mold to their programs. After all, without little boys, there is no Boy Scouts of America. 

Image: Boy Scouts via Chicago Tribune

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Comments

 

Shana said:

I think that the commentator, Eric is a spammer.

Now to the post.  One thing to remember is that the Boy SCouts is a privat organization and can do as it pleases.  Plus there is the issue that there are a lot of parents out there that think that their kids are perfectly healthy when in fact they are not, because they themselves are in an even worse situation.  There is also the issue of safety.

May 11, 2009 12:57 PM
 

Treespeed said:

This is for a subset of the group's activities, not "joining" the Boby Scouts as your first sentence misleadingly implies. I'm sure if a kid is sufficiently motivated they can participate in some of the shorter hikes and activities to improve and prove their fitness to the rest of their pack.

May 11, 2009 1:41 PM
 

steph said:

OK- I think Treespeed points out that the height/weight requirement isn't to JOIN the scouts but rather to participate in the more dangerous (and yes, high level scouts like Eagle Scouts do much more dangerous, survivalist adventure type things that are ill suited to kids that never get off the sofa except to turn on the x-box) activities.  My husband was an eagle scout, and while we would never have our kid join the scouts due to the gay discrimination thing, I can see why for the safety of the group as a whole out-of-shape kids would not be allowed to participate- he and his troupe did a 2 week very extreme hike through alaska, and there is no way anyone not in very good physical condition with good physical stamina could have made it- there is no medical attention available in some spots, and when one of their leaders compound-fractured his leg, the troupe had to CARRY HIM to where he could be airlifted out.  Just sayin'.  That is NOT something you want to count on a bunch of couch potatoes for.

May 11, 2009 2:39 PM
 

Kate said:

I was a Girl Scout growing up, and the best thing about being a scout was camp every year. We hiked, slept in tents, cooked outside, and had a huge dance party on the last night of camp. Camp was special because we had so many kids in our troupe with physical and mental handicaps, from mild to severe. While my scouting experiences could have been more extreme, and I could have learned more survival-type skills at a more remote camping location, learning how to accomodate my fellow campers was one of the most valuable lessons I ever learned.

Now, I know that being overweight is different from having cerebral palsy, but I think there is something to be said for encouraging all kids to participate and to take on new challenges, no matter what they struggle with. Kids who are able to do more learn valuable lessons about helping and challenging their scoutmates, and kids who are less able get a chance to stretch their limits in a safe and supportive environment.

I pulled my friend in a red wagon all over camp every year because her wheelchair couldn't make it over the trails. I helped kids shower and use the restroom. I learned to respect the dignity of people no matter what they struggled with. That is what made scouting special to me, not hiking in the wilderness, and I hope my kids have a chance to experience it.

May 11, 2009 8:45 PM
 

David Copeland said:

I am an Assistant Scoutmaster for and Troop and thought I would weigh in the conversation.  If you were to read these requirements closely, you would learn the requirements only impact high adventure activity.  Scouts and adults would be able to participate in 99% of all other Scout functions including summer camps, day camps and the typical weekend camping we do every month.  This would not in anyway prevent a youth from advancing to Eagle Scout.

Our Troop has skinny kids, fat kids, nerdy kids, and cool kids.There is no better organization in the world for teaching youth leadership, respect for each other and respect for our environment. I found that those who criticize tend to not know about the program or are basing opinion on the opinion of others.

Many of these kids will spend time in the outdoors for the first time thanks to Scouts and will learn self-respect and self-responsibility for the first time thanks to Scouting. This rule is purely a safety requirement. Would you want your unprepared kid or spouse to be days out in the backcountry without an opportunity for rescue?  Also, a youth that chooses to participate in high adventure usually knows many months in advance. This gives them time to prepare by working up to the strenuous activity.  I have seen both youth and adults in some cases begin to exercise for the first time while working towards a high adventure goal.

I am in Scouting as a volunteer because a care for our kids and I am willing to make many sacrifices with my time and finances to him them. It is discouraging at times when so many people put our organization down when we are just trying to help the kids grow into stronger adults. It is just a pure shame that our society makes it so difficult to be a giver since it is easier to judge than it is to get out and actually do something for the world.

Again it is purely for the safety of the kids and of the adults. Read the requirements closely and I am sure you would agree.  Thank you by the way for doing your part to help the parents out there!

May 12, 2009 8:36 AM

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Jeanne Sager is a writer who lives in upstate New York with her husband, daughter, a dog and too many cats. She refuses to believe motherhood comes with pumpkin appliqued sweaters, and she';s not ready to apologize for having only one child. She writes about raising her kid in her own hometown and the mom stuff she's not embarrassed to own at her blog, Inside Out (http://jeannesager.blogspot.com), she's contributing editor of Grand Magazine, and she's a regular essayist here on Babble

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