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Boy With Toy Gun Shot By Deputy

Posted by Brett Singer

This looks like a real gun but it's just a toy.You hear about things like this happening from time to time but you always hope it will stop. But it doesn't.

A boy was "playing cops and robbers" in Palmdale, California when he was shot by a Los Angeles County sheriff's deputy. He is now in the hospital in stable condition.

The police were responding to complaints from neighbors that someone was "riding a bicycle and brandishing a handgun." Deputies arrived on the scene, told the kid to drop the gun, and he pointed it at them instead. According to the report, the boy is 15, which seems a little old for that sort of behavior.

This quote, from sheriff's spokesman Deputy Ed Hernandez, is disturbing: "The deputies, fearing for their lives, shot him once. Later on, they determined it was a juvenile playing cops and robbers." I'm not blaming the police, especially since if the boy was really 15, he should know better. But the idea that a kid can have a gun that looks enough like a real one (the photo above is of a toy gun you can buy at Amazon.com) for a trained police officer to fear for their life...

Source: LA Times

Image: Amazon

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Comments

 

tristan said:

honestly with they way school shootings and gang shootings have gotten i dont blame the cops in the least.

1) why do toy companies make them to look so real? does anyone else see the problem with that?

2)I as a parent do not buy toy guns for my childeren bright water guns only. i would rather not let them play with toy guns but comprimise with bright coulors and call them water squirters.

In no way do i look down or judge the parents who buy such toys its not my place to raise others children or tell them how to do it.

3)I see these stories and make it a point to tell my kids that in no way do you point anything at a police officer toy stick or even finger. I truly hope others can do this with there kids aswell.

May 12, 2009 7:27 PM
 

Kent said:

Errrr.... Isn't this why they put the big bright orange plastic tips on the barrels of the toy ones?

May 12, 2009 9:48 PM
 

Sue said:

Toy Guy?  LOL!

May 12, 2009 10:32 PM
 

esther said:

Children develop at different rates, and there is always the possibility that he is developmentally delayed. My 33-year-old cousin suffered a fever-induced stroke as a young child and is mentally retarded as a result, he still plays with GI Joes and water pistols. Even if he is simply immature or has bad judgement, he certainly did not deserve to get shot.

There is no denying that being a police officer is hard dangerous work, but there  are too many law enforcement officials who assume the worst case scenario in every situation instead of giving people the benefit of the doubt. There are also a lot of cops out there who habitually abuse their power and unnecessarily escalate situations to a level of violence. Like, Tristan, I would never ever point so much as a finger at a police officer, but that is only because I know that there are a lot of cops out there who are only looking for an excuse...

May 13, 2009 2:09 AM
 

leahsmom said:

Some cops are just looking for an excuse, and some cops abuse their power.  Some cops are people working hard just like anyone else, trying to do their job right and support their families.  The law gives police a fairly low standard for use of a weapon because police officers routinely lose their lives in the course of duty.  Giving someone "the benefit of the doubt" might mean a family loses a mom or dad because lives can be lost with hesitation.  It's never an easy call, and it's not one I'm comfortable making from the outside.

May 13, 2009 9:09 AM
 

Jamie said:

I agree with Kent- I thought this was the reason that toy guns are required to have that gigantic orange cap on the end.

May 13, 2009 9:27 AM
 

CK_Lunchbox said:

More and more cops, because of budget cuts, are being run through training on a conveyor belt. Here in Houston, an officer shot an unarmed boy in the back after the boy had gone off his ADD meds and tried to run from the house. The correct protocol is to wait for an intervention team rather than enter the home and deal with it on your own. Remember, he was shot in the back.

I'm not necessarily an advocate of super realistic looking guns as toys, but take it from a guy who has been trained to pull a trigger, in this instance and in the one I mentioned both officers made snap decisions without correctly adequately assessing the situation. The best way to correct this? Constant training on target identification ranges. Lack of such training tends to make shooters who lack confidence in themselves resulting in itchy fingers.

I realize this is my opinion and may differ from other readers, so I'm not going to get in any big debates on such a tragic occurrence. Furthermore, none of us were there and are not fully qualified to pass judgment. Still, the fault goes to the police officer.

By the way, if the boy had autism or displayed signs of a mental handicap the fact that he was 15 is irrelevant. That's another part of correctly sizing up the situation.

May 13, 2009 10:04 AM
 

Fanglord2 said:

The orignial article I read said the toy gun did not have the big orange cap on the end.

May 13, 2009 10:06 AM
 

Brett Singer said:

Also, you can remove the orange cap pretty easily. I would think that if it had the cap, the officer wouldn't have fired his weapon. Obviously we don't know that for certain, but if they took the time to say "put down the weapon" to the kid, that would have given them time to see the orange cap if it was there.

May 13, 2009 11:25 AM

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Brett Singer is a writer and father living in Manhattan with his wonderful wife and two terrific sons (referred to here as Thing 1 and Thing 2). He writes about music for the Boston Phoenix, parenting for Babble and daddytips.com, and other topics for anyone else who will have him.

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