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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.babble.com/CS/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Strollerderby : Joseph Conn</title><link>http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/Joseph+Conn/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: Joseph Conn</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007.1 (Build: 20910.1126)</generator><item><title>Separation of Church and State=Same Sex Marriage</title><link>http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2008/10/29/separation-of-church-and-state-same-sex-marriage.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 01:00:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">42a08a39-daf3-4129-8a63-8a27b879cc03:141569</guid><dc:creator>Shannon LC Cate</dc:creator><slash:comments>54</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=141569</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2008/10/29/separation-of-church-and-state-same-sex-marriage.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/2008/10/23-End/marriage-equality.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/2008/10/23-End/marriage-equality.jpg" alt="" align="right" border="0" height="299" hspace="4" width="224" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Finally!&amp;nbsp; Someone from a religious perspective is talking sense about gay marriage.&amp;nbsp; (And it&amp;#39;s in the newspaper.)&amp;nbsp; Joseph Conn, spokesperson for Americans United for the Separation on Church and State told the &lt;a href="http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_10810746"&gt;San Jose Mercury news:&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;At its heart, the marriage issue is a church-state issue...In effect, you have several of the large faith groups trying to impose their viewpoint on marriage on the whole state. That&amp;#39;s really what&amp;#39;s going on with this referendum.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Precisely.&amp;nbsp; Civil marriage is a legal status granted by the state.&amp;nbsp; It has nothing to do with religious marriage which is granted or not by religious traditions in a wide variety of ways.&amp;nbsp; Hence many same-sex couples have received blessings on their unions from their religious communities but lack any civil rights based on legal marriage.&amp;nbsp; Hence, same-sex couples in states that marry them have those civil rights and may or may not have received any kind of blessing from a religious entity.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have long-believed that the confusion people have about the difference between what a religious entity does in marrying and what the state does in marrying is the crux of the disagreement about &amp;quot;gay marriage.&amp;quot;&amp;nbsp; Churches will never have to marry same-sex couples if doing so offends their beliefs.&amp;nbsp; Think about it.&amp;nbsp; No church has to marry anybody &lt;i&gt;now&lt;/i&gt; if doing so offends their beliefs.&amp;nbsp; Most Roman Catholic churches won&amp;#39;t marry non-Catholics unless they convert and/or the non-Catholic member of a couple promises to allow any children to be raised Catholic.&amp;nbsp; Orthodox Jewish rabbis often have similar policies.&amp;nbsp; Various churches I have attended had requirements to marry that included church-based premarital counseling, church membership of a year or longer and even a history of contributing money to the church.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In spite of these rules, the Roman Catholic Church is not lobbying to outlaw marriage for non-Catholics.&amp;nbsp; But that&amp;#39;s the level of absurdity to which religious opposition to same-sex marriage falls.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In this country, we have something called freedom of religion.&amp;nbsp; That means we are free to practice or not practice any religion we choose.&amp;nbsp; It also means we are free from the government making laws based on the beliefs of any particular religion and enforcing them upon everyone.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And this married, Christian, lesbian mom says thank God for that.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Related Posts by this Writer:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2008/10/20/proposition-8-propaganda.aspx"&gt;Proposition 8 Propaganda &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2008/10/15/first-graders-surprise-lesbian-teacher-at-san-francisco-wedding.aspx"&gt;First Graders Surprise Lesbian Teacher at Wedding&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2008/10/03/mccain-talks-to-the-gays-part-one-marriage.aspx"&gt;McCain Talks to the Gays: Part One, Marriage&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;a href="http://babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2008/10/04/mccain-talks-to-the-gays-part-two-adoption.aspx"&gt;McCain Talks to the Gays: Part Two, Adoption&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;font size="1"&gt;Image: http://mwood919.blogspot.com/ &lt;/font&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.babble.com/CS/aggbug.aspx?PostID=141569" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/same-sex+marriage/default.aspx">same-sex marriage</category><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/first+amendment/default.aspx">first amendment</category><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/gay+marriage/default.aspx">gay marriage</category><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/separation+of+church+and+state/default.aspx">separation of church and state</category><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/Shannon+LC+Cate/default.aspx">Shannon LC Cate</category><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/Americans+United+for+Separation+of+Church+and+State/default.aspx">Americans United for Separation of Church and State</category><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/Proposition+8/default.aspx">Proposition 8</category><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/Joseph+Conn/default.aspx">Joseph Conn</category></item></channel></rss>