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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.babble.com/CS/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Strollerderby : elimination communication</title><link>http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/elimination+communication/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: elimination communication</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007.1 (Build: 20910.1126)</generator><item><title>I Want To Be the "Urine Whisperer"</title><link>http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2008/06/16/i-want-to-be-the-quot-urine-whisperer-quot.aspx</link><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 19:00:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">42a08a39-daf3-4129-8a63-8a27b879cc03:101771</guid><dc:creator>Adrienne Martini</dc:creator><slash:comments>5</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=101771</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2008/06/16/i-want-to-be-the-quot-urine-whisperer-quot.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/2008/06/16-22/5077.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/2008/06/16-22/5077.jpg" alt="" align="right" border="0" height="250" hspace="4" width="250" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; My oldest kid took for-ev-er to get a handle on using the potty. Pee was no problem. It was the big P that seemed to flummox her. We tried everything. Encouragement. Bribes. Threats. Still - she did what she always does, which is wait until she was good and ready, then figured it out in two seconds. It drove us into fits. It&amp;#39;ll be different with Kid Number Two. Why?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Because we have taken on Dr. P&amp;#39;s philosophy, which is, in a nutshell, &lt;a href="http://blogs.webmd.com/healthy-children/2008/06/potty-whisperer.html"&gt;don&amp;#39;t freak out&lt;/a&gt;.&amp;nbsp; Want to do the EC route? Great -- just don&amp;#39;t freak out. Want to wait until the kid initiates it himself? Great -- just don&amp;#39;t freak out. Want to practice the Vulcan mind-meld of poop? Great -- just don&amp;#39;t freak out.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So far, Kid Number Two, who is almost 3, shows no signs of giving one crap about using the pot. We continue to not fr...you get the idea. I&amp;#39;ll let you know how it works out -- but suspect that he&amp;#39;ll come to grips with it when he&amp;#39;s good and ready.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.babble.com/CS/aggbug.aspx?PostID=101771" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/potty+training/default.aspx">potty training</category><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/elimination+communication/default.aspx">elimination communication</category><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/Dr.+Parker/default.aspx">Dr. Parker</category><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/toilet+learning/default.aspx">toilet learning</category></item><item><title>To Pee or Not to Pee</title><link>http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2007/12/26/to-pee-or-not-to-pee.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:24:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">42a08a39-daf3-4129-8a63-8a27b879cc03:60581</guid><dc:creator>Adrienne Martini</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=60581</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2007/12/26/to-pee-or-not-to-pee.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/potty.jpeg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/potty.jpeg" alt="" align="right" border="0" height="250" hspace="4" width="250" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; If you want to start a fight when you meet a new parent online, the quickest route isn&amp;#39;t to bring up breast v. bottle or Waldorf v. Montessori. No, if you really want to descent into screaming fits of madness, whisper the words: elimination communication.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Who knew that the world of diaperless v. diapered infants could be so heated. Heather Caliri, who wrote a feature about &lt;a href="http://www.brainchildmag.com/essays/winter2008_caliri.asp" target="_blank"&gt;her diaperless baby for Brain, Child magazine&lt;/a&gt;, has discovered, the mere mention of babies who pee can unleash all &lt;a href="http://brainchildtalk.blogspot.com/2007/12/relieving-myself.html" target="_blank"&gt;sorts of online angst&lt;/a&gt;. Among the weighty issues under debate are the merits of peeing in a public sink, the entitlement of parents and the proper use of hand santizer.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Nothing like a little urine to bring out the flamer in everyone. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="storyclass"&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.babble.com/CS/aggbug.aspx?PostID=60581" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/diapers/default.aspx">diapers</category><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/elimination+communication/default.aspx">elimination communication</category><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/online/default.aspx">online</category><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/debates/default.aspx">debates</category><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/diaperless/default.aspx">diaperless</category><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/flames/default.aspx">flames</category><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/caliri/default.aspx">caliri</category></item><item><title>Delusional Park Slope Parent Seeks Nanny/Saint</title><link>http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2007/09/13/delusional-park-slope-parent-seeks-nanny-saint.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2007 21:34:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">42a08a39-daf3-4129-8a63-8a27b879cc03:40242</guid><dc:creator>Madeline Holler</dc:creator><slash:comments>8</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=40242</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2007/09/13/delusional-park-slope-parent-seeks-nanny-saint.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;a href="http://babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/2007/09/08-15/ec.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/2007/09/08-15/ec.jpg" style="width:300px;height:392px;" align="right" border="0" height="392" hspace="4" width="300" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I’ve never had to hire a nanny. I stash my kids in the
cheapest kiddie farm that minimally passes health inspections. So maybe I don’t
really understand what it’s like to open my home and life to a stranger, who
will spend a seemingly endless amount of time with my kids, doing the bulk of
the drudgery so I don’t have to.

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Still, I feel comfortable in saying that the requirements
laid out in this ad for a Park Slope nanny will be met only by liars or those
with hands bearing scars from stigmata. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Let’s unpack the ad:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;i&gt;Busy young couple … active, energetic nanny …
three-month-old.&lt;/i&gt; Got it. &lt;i&gt;Fluent in English … 1-2 year commitment …
experience with family from newborn to elementary school a plus. &lt;/i&gt;They’re
dreaming, but fine.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;They outline a
four-day week, 12-hour days plus one weekend night per month. Next come the
delusions/cries for help.&lt;/p&gt;



&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;Experience
with and/or support of exclusive breastfeeding and pumping &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="apple-style-span"&gt;is a requirement. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;I am imagining, here, a nanny
being non-“supportive.” &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;Pointing and laughing while she nurses?
Making mom pump in the bathroom?&lt;span class="apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt; Then: &lt;i&gt;Interest in learning EC (elimination communication&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="apple-style-span"&gt;/ infant potty training) is a requirement. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.babble.com/content/articles/columns/notesfromanonbreeder/006/"&gt;Experience
with EC is a significant plus&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt; Riiiight.
No mention of combat pay, which is surely a requirement for holding a bowl
under someone else’s naked three-month-old while he blasts one out.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;Now, as if a diaper-less kid pissing all over the floor
isn’t enough, there’s also the duty of &lt;span class="apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;preparing his meals, cleaning up after him, handling his
laundry … &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;AND … &lt;i&gt;just maintaining the
home&amp;#39;s existing neatness and running occasional &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;&lt;span class="apple-style-span"&gt;household errands ... &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;span class="apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;But if the parents can’t do it
(they can’t, right?), how should the nanny be able to?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;Finally
… &lt;i&gt;must be willing to travel with the child … by public transportation …&lt;/i&gt;
Is that with our without diapers? With or without the dry-cleaning? With or
without maintaining the train’s existing neatness?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p class="MsoNormal"&gt;&lt;span class="apple-style-span"&gt;&lt;span style="color:black;"&gt;All
that and more, plus you’re not even allowed to smoke! (But the ad says nothing about
drinking on the job.)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;img src="http://www.babble.com/CS/aggbug.aspx?PostID=40242" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/elimination+communication/default.aspx">elimination communication</category><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/nannies/default.aspx">nannies</category><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/housecleaning/default.aspx">housecleaning</category><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/breastfeeding+support/default.aspx">breastfeeding support</category><category domain="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/park+slope/default.aspx">park slope</category></item><item><title>Tired of Changing Diapers?  Try Elimination Communication</title><link>http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2007/01/20/tired-of-changing-diapers-try-elimination-communication.aspx</link><pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 19:14:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">42a08a39-daf3-4129-8a63-8a27b879cc03:2938</guid><dc:creator>Karen Murphy</dc:creator><slash:comments>6</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=2938</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2007/01/20/tired-of-changing-diapers-try-elimination-communication.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.babble.com/CS/photos/babble/images/2939/original.aspx" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.babble.com/CS/photos/babble/images/2939/original.aspx" title="baby potty " alt="baby potty " align="right" border="0" hspace="4"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;I admit, when I first heard about Elimination Communication (EC)
several years ago, I was skeptical.&amp;nbsp; Really skeptical.&amp;nbsp; Okay,
maybe I even said, "Ewww."&amp;nbsp; After all, what was this about?&amp;nbsp;
Rushing to hold your infant over a potty, based on intuition and
certain cues?&amp;nbsp; I'm a big believer in non-verbal communication,
telepathy if you will, and in fact I've communicated with my own
children that way when they were pre-verbal, using it for instance to
know when they were hungry or thirsty (and don't many parents do
that?&amp;nbsp; Think about it; I'm sure you have done this too), but, uh,
the peeing and pooping?&amp;nbsp; It's one thing to mistake "I want that
block" for "I'm thirsty", but....the pee.&amp;nbsp; And the poop.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But
what about the diapers?&amp;nbsp; They're expensive, and lots of people
have issues with the bleaches and gels and dyes that kids are wearing
next to their kid-bits for longer and longer periods now, judging by
the ever-increasing diaper sizes that are now available (soon!&amp;nbsp; In
Extra Jumbo Jumbo!&amp;nbsp; New retro designs, great for the dorm!), and
aren't we filling up our landfills with these things, each one with a
half-life of about 400 years, collectively containing enough ammonia
and methane to increase global warming at least ten degrees?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;So...should
the hipster parent be thinking about having their babies go
commando?&amp;nbsp; Apparently, this concept is not new, nor is it confined
to super-crunchy AP parents. Parents in many parts of the world who
don't have easy access to disposable diapers have been doing this for
years. According to &lt;a href="http://www.nj.com/living/ledger/index.ssf?/base/living-0/1169185274106730.xml&amp;amp;coll=1&amp;amp;thispage=1"&gt;this article&lt;/a&gt;,
"for most [EC parents], it's another way to stay in tune with
their babies, just as they pick up cues the child is hungry
or tired. They emphasize that it's a process, not a
goal of training a child within a certain time frame." Okay, but what
about the parents who work outside the home?&amp;nbsp; And what is this
about &lt;a href="http://www.natural-wisdom.com/faq.htm"&gt;holding a potty under the child&lt;/a&gt; while he nurses?&amp;nbsp; And what about the split-crotch &lt;strike&gt;panties&lt;/strike&gt; uh, &lt;a href="http://www.theecstore.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&amp;amp;cPath=170_187&amp;amp;products_id=1530"&gt;pants&lt;/a&gt; for babies?&amp;nbsp; &lt;br&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you're interested in this concept, there is a &lt;a href="http://www.freewebs.com/freetoec/"&gt;wealth of information &lt;/a&gt;available
about it, but be aware that the experts advise that there is a "window
of opportunity" for beginning EC that only extends to about five or six
months of age. After that, it's Huggies all the way. Sorry, Charlie.&lt;br&gt;
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