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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://www.babble.com/CS/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Strollerderby : second-hand smoke</title><link>http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/tags/second-hand+smoke/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: second-hand smoke</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2007.1 (Build: 20910.1126)</generator><item><title>Should Smoking Be Banned In Cars With Kids?</title><link>http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2009/01/07/should-smoking-be-banned-in-cars-with-kids.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 17:00:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">42a08a39-daf3-4129-8a63-8a27b879cc03:161633</guid><dc:creator>Brett Singer</dc:creator><slash:comments>11</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=161633</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2009/01/07/should-smoking-be-banned-in-cars-with-kids.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/2008/11/01-07/no-smoking-if-you-want-to-be-a-foster-parent.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/2008/11/01-07/no-smoking-if-you-want-to-be-a-foster-parent.jpg" alt="The East London borough of Redbridge says that smokers will no longer be allowed to be foster parents" align="right" border="0" height="207" hspace="4" width="207" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;So. We have &lt;a href="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2009/01/05/third-hand-smoke-can-harm-your-kids.aspx"&gt;third-hand smoke&lt;/a&gt;. It&amp;#39;s &lt;a href="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2009/01/05/third-hand-smoke-can-harm-your-kids.aspx"&gt;bad&lt;/a&gt;. And so on. More fuel for anti-smoking activists. And when someone says, &amp;quot;We&amp;#39;re protecting helpless children!&amp;quot; that makes it harder to argue that they are intruding into our personal lives. Right?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;A town in Washington State (can&amp;#39;t ban smoking in D.C. – Obama&amp;#39;s a smoker!) is considering a bill that would ban smoking in cars with children.&lt;br /&gt;From the AP: &amp;quot;A member of the Tobacco Advisory Board of Pierce County, Leonard Sanderson, told The Olympian the proposal would make it a secondary offense, meaning smoking drivers could be ticketed if they were pulled over for another offense, such as speeding.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was surprised to learn that California, Arkansas, Louisiana and Maine have all made smoking in cars that have kids in them against the law.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Here&amp;#39;s the problem. There&amp;#39;s no doubt that smoking around children is bad for their health. I get it. But unless you make smoking illegal (not gonna happen), how is this not a privacy violation? You can&amp;#39;t drink and drive, but that&amp;#39;s all the time, not just around children. Talking on a cell phone while driving has been deemed dangerous, so most states have laws that say you have to wear a headset. Driving without a seatbelt is dangerous, so if you don&amp;#39;t wear a seatbelt, you get a ticket. And so on. None of those laws, however, are specific to children.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Does the law apply to your own children? What about other people&amp;#39;s kids? Can you smoke in the car when there are no kids there? Now that we know about third-hand smoke, won&amp;#39;t the little tykes be at risk anyway if they ride in a car that was, at one time or another, smoked in? And at what age is it safe to be exposed to second-hand smoke?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And how about bacon, or other smoked meats? Those aren&amp;#39;t good for children, right? I mean, come on.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(In case you were wondering, most of that was me going off the deep end for comic effect. Thank you. Tip your waitresses.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I think it would be great if nobody smoked. It&amp;#39;s unhealthy, creates enormous costs for health insurers as those smokers age, and there&amp;#39;s the second-hand, third-hand, and fourth-hand (just wait, it&amp;#39;ll happen) smoke to contend with. It&amp;#39;s a bad habit. But it&amp;#39;s still legal. Until it isn&amp;#39;t, this seems like an unreasonable law, like the one about smokers not being allowed &lt;a href="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2008/11/07/smokers-no-longer-allowed-foster-children.aspx"&gt;foster&lt;/a&gt; children (which, considering that some kids are &lt;a href="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2009/01/05/kid-sells-himself-to-prospective-foster-parents-with-letters.aspx"&gt;writing letters&lt;/a&gt; to woo potential foster parents, seems like an unfair restriction).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;What do you think? Is this too much of an invasion of privacy? Or does it not matter if it&amp;#39;s to &amp;quot;protect our children&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Source: &lt;a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/6420ap_wa_legislature_smoking.html"&gt;AP via nwsource.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Image: &lt;a href="http://www.churchtimes.co.uk/content.asp?id=35891"&gt;Church Times&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Read more:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h4 class="BlogPostHeader"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2009/01/05/third-hand-smoke-can-harm-your-kids.aspx"&gt;Third Hand Smoke Can Harm Your Kids&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;&lt;h4 class="BlogPostHeader"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2009/01/05/on-jett-travolta-howard-stern-gets-it-right.aspx"&gt;On Jett Travolta, Howard Stern Gets It Right&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;&lt;h4 class="BlogPostHeader"&gt;&lt;a 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2009 15:00:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">42a08a39-daf3-4129-8a63-8a27b879cc03:160977</guid><dc:creator>Brett Singer</dc:creator><slash:comments>8</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=160977</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2009/01/05/third-hand-smoke-can-harm-your-kids.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/2009/01/third_hand_smoke-will-kill-your-chlildren.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/2009/01/third_hand_smoke-will-kill-your-chlildren.jpg" alt="Third Hand Smoke - something else to worry about" align="right" border="0" height="240" hspace="4" width="320" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;Do you smoke, or do you know someone who smokes? Do you think your kids will be OK as long as they don&amp;#39;t smoke around them?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, you&amp;#39;re wrong.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Everyone knows about second-hand smoke. It&amp;#39;s easy to avoid – just don&amp;#39;t spend time with smokers when they are, in fact, smoking. However, there&amp;#39;s a new danger – third-hand smoke. This new term, coined by doctors from Boston&amp;#39;s MassGeneral Hospital for Children, describes, &amp;quot;the invisible yet toxic brew of gases and particles clinging to smokers’ hair and clothing, not to mention cushions and carpeting, that lingers long after smoke has cleared from a room.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And it gets even more fun: &amp;quot;The residue includes heavy metals, carcinogens and even radioactive materials that young children can get on their hands and ingest, especially if they’re crawling or playing on the floor.&amp;quot; Cuz kids never play on the floor.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Dr. Philip Landrigan of the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York added, &amp;quot;simply closing the kitchen door to take a smoke is not protecting the kids from the effects of that smoke.&amp;quot; See, that much I think people knew. But that gross lingering scent that clings to your clothes and hair after you spend time at a bar that still allows people to puff away freely? Who knew that was dangerous too?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;So what to do? Avoid smokers? Avoid rooms where smokers have been? Don&amp;#39;t go anywhere that smokers congregate? Live in a literal bubble?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;#39;ve found that avoiding smoke is fairly easy, but I do know people who smoke. And they smell like it. The fact that&amp;#39;s more than just gross might make me think twice before I let them in my house to sit on my furniture. That should be a fun conversation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;Source: &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/03/health/research/03smoke.html?partner=permalink&amp;amp;exprod=permalink"&gt;NYTimes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Image: &lt;a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28470774/"&gt;MSNBC&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Read more:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h4 class="BlogPostHeader"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2008/12/17/boy-saves-brother-s-life-with-bone-marrow.aspx"&gt;Boy Saves Brother&amp;#39;s Life With Bone Marrow&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;&lt;h4 class="BlogPostHeader"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2009/01/01/who-buys-the-baby-products-in-your-house.aspx"&gt;Who Buys The Baby Products In Your House?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;&lt;h4 class="BlogPostHeader"&gt;&lt;a 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Children</title><link>http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2008/11/07/smokers-no-longer-allowed-foster-children.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:45:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">42a08a39-daf3-4129-8a63-8a27b879cc03:144301</guid><dc:creator>Brett Singer</dc:creator><slash:comments>7</slash:comments><wfw:commentRss xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/">http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=144301</wfw:commentRss><comments>http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2008/11/07/smokers-no-longer-allowed-foster-children.aspx#comments</comments><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/2008/11/01-07/no-smoking-if-you-want-to-be-a-foster-parent.jpg"&gt;&lt;img src="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/2008/11/01-07/no-smoking-if-you-want-to-be-a-foster-parent.jpg" alt="The East London borough of Redbridge says that smokers will no longer be allowed to be foster parents" align="right" border="0" height="207" hspace="4" width="207" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;The East London borough of Redbridge will no longer allow smokers to be foster parents.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;From &lt;a href="http://news.scotsman.com/uk/Smoker-foster-carers-axed.4661795.jp"&gt;The Scotsman&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The ban, which was passed unanimously at a cabinet meeting of Redbridge Council last night, means that children in the east London borough will not be placed with foster carers who smoke after January 2010.&lt;br /&gt;Councillors say the move is crucial in protecting children.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, children shouldn&amp;#39;t be inhaling second-hand smoke because it is a health risk. On the other hand, this is discrimination, isn&amp;#39;t it? I&amp;#39;m actually a big smoker&amp;#39;s rights guy in certain areas. For example, I think it should be legal for me to start an airline that lets people smoke – Up In Smoke Air. Make smoking illegal on commercial flights, fine. But why can&amp;#39;t I start a business where the whole point is to give smokers a place to go? (I&amp;#39;m not a smoker, but I was for many years.)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Another publication, &lt;a href="http://www.busrep.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=553&amp;amp;fArticleId=4699999"&gt;Business Report&lt;/a&gt;, has a little more info on the ban:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&amp;quot;Some people will feel it is an intrusion on personal freedoms,&amp;quot; said councillor Michael Stark. &amp;quot;But we also know that smoking increases the risk of serious illness in childhood.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;On balance, we have decided children in our care shouldn&amp;#39;t grow up breathing second-hand smoke.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;...&lt;br /&gt;A spokesperson for Forest, a pro-smoking group, said: &amp;quot;It&amp;#39;s going to exclude people who could be outstanding foster parents.&lt;br /&gt;&amp;quot;It sends out an insidious message that smokers in general are unfit parents and I don&amp;#39;t think any politician has the right to do that.&amp;quot;&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Look, it&amp;#39;s a nasty, unhealthy habit that has proven to be unhealthy for children (and everyone else) to be around. But is it better for kids to stay in a potentially worse situation? And if this ban is OK, doesn’t that open the door for banning other behaviors? I&amp;#39;m slightly surprised at my reaction to this story, actually. What do you think – is it OK for a government to ban smokers from being foster parents? Or is that going too far?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Source: &lt;a href="http://news.scotsman.com/uk/Smoker-foster-carers-axed.4661795.jp"&gt;The Scotsman&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href="http://www.busrep.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=553&amp;amp;fArticleId=4699999"&gt;Business Report&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Image: &lt;a href="http://www.churchtimes.co.uk/content.asp?id=35891"&gt;Church Times&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Read more:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h4 class="CommonSearchResultName"&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/strollerderby/archive/2008/10/19/santa-claus-says-smoke-more.aspx"&gt;Santa Claus says: Smoke More&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;

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