They Say: no link between autism and measles vaccine

re: They Say: no link between autism and measles vaccine

mays5 — Thu, 18 Sep 2008 22:21:15 GMT

More research definitely needs to be done on this subjects as the number of children diagnosed with autism continues to increase. My understanding is that thimerosol has been pretty much removed from most vaccines. I'm not sure I believe autism is caused by vaccines per se, but I do think it's very possible something in the vaccines triggers the onset of autism in someone predisposed to it. There's a great debate about the possible link between vaccines and autism at www.opposingviews.com/questions/are-autism-and-vaccines-linked Multiple experts from both sides weigh in and make some interesting arguments.

re: They Say: no link between autism and measles vaccine

SproutsMama — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:55:39 GMT

That Niel Guy: thank you! I'm so sick of reading the comments here and seeing people become so nasty. I'm all for discussion and debate, but if you wouldn't say it to someone at a PTA meeting or in a playgroup, you probably shouldn't type it.

re: They Say: no link between autism and measles vaccine

That Neil Guy — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:25:08 GMT

And thanks for the lovely "8th grade education" line. The anonymity of the internet is a wonderful way to pretend you're not dealing with real, feeling human beings and so neglect the basic civilities of one-on-one conversation and civilized discussion. I mean, was that really necessary? I'm just an interested caring father myself.

re: They Say: no link between autism and measles vaccine

That Neil Guy — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:21:32 GMT

And sorry about the double post above. If I could erase one of 'em, I'd do it.

re: They Say: no link between autism and measles vaccine

That Neil Guy — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:20:59 GMT

I suspect that article will mention that it's in some doses of flu shots. So why not just avoid the flu shot? Am I missing something here?

re: They Say: no link between autism and measles vaccine

that guy — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:56:21 GMT

virginia-

how is this not a study? it was a case control study in which children with autism and GI problems were compared to children without autism with GI problems.......conducted out of Columbia University, Massachusetts General Hospital and Harvard University........

re: They Say: no link between autism and measles vaccine

Virginia — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:32:59 GMT

This is not a "Study" and you're wrong to promote it with such a headline--as is Newsday.

re: They Say: no link between autism and measles vaccine

num nums — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:31:55 GMT

That Neil Guy is wrong about no thimerosol/mercury in vaccines.

Got to www.thevaccinebook.com

A "Dr. Sears Parenting" book and related site.

Anybody w/8th grade educ, including That Neil Guy, can understand this kind of writing.

re: They Say: no link between autism and measles vaccine

renee — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 18:23:39 GMT

Of course there have been studies of thimerosal--not randomized controlled trials, but observational studies comparing people who got it to those who didn't. I've got one right here: "Early Thimerosal Exposure and Neuropsychological Outcomes at 7 to 10 Years," from the New England Journal of Medicine, September 27, 2007. The conclusion was that exposure to thimerosal from vaccines was not associated with any deficits in neuro-psychological functioning at age 7 to 10 years. (The outcomes studied did not, however, include autism). The effects of exposure to mercury have also been studied by comparing people with differing levels of fish consumption.

re: They Say: no link between autism and measles vaccine

That Neil Guy — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:57:56 GMT

Thimerosal hasn't been present in vaccines for years now, yet there's been no drop in autism rates since then. Seems to me a pretty easy conclusion to make.

re: They Say: no link between autism and measles vaccine

That Neil Guy — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:57:03 GMT

Thimerosal hasn't been present in vaccines for years now, yet there's been no drop in autism rates since then. Seems to me a pretty easy conclusion to make.

re: They Say: no link between autism and measles vaccine

Phx/GAmom — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:42:48 GMT

It's difficult to do a study on thimerosal because a)childhood vaccines no longer contain it; and b) who is going to volunteer themselves, let alone their child for such a study?

I aggree wholeheartedly with your final statement....those who are pro-vaccine are likely to stay that way (it reinforces their belief) and those who are anti are likely to find many faults (valid and otherwise)with this study.