Sarah Palin pro choice -- for gays

re: Sarah Palin pro choice -- for gays

Brad — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 18:45:21 GMT

The truth is is that both are right. A homesexuality gene has been identified under the human genome project which as we grow in our depth of knowledge of DNA will uncover more evidence for the "gay gene." That being said, homosexuality has also been show to occur through one's environment and its impact on human thought and behavior. Finally, there are people who make a "homosexual choice." Some people believe that they can get sexual pleasure from both genders and regularly choose between one or the other. Does that make a woman less of a homosexual because she can get sexual pleasure and satisfaction from both genders? Finally, the truth is, all of this is a political need for both sides. Gays need the incontrovertible evidence that to be gay is a genetic trait so that right wingers have nothing more to say and give them the rights they deserve and Right Wingers need the opposite as all the dogmatic bull@#$% they spew depends on refuting evolution and homosexuality and reason overall.

re: Sarah Palin pro choice -- for gays

Brett Singer — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:30:04 GMT

@diera: well-put. Another aspect that I didn't put in the post is that I think the idea of sexuality as choice leads to events like "Pray Away the Gay"

www.news24.com/.../0,,2-10-2339_2389093,00.html

which may or may not have been held at a church Palin attends. It opens a door to "save" gay people. (Bill Maher also deals with this in his new movie: www.nytimes.com/.../28lela.html)

re: Sarah Palin pro choice -- for gays

diera — Thu, 02 Oct 2008 17:50:46 GMT

I have mixed feelings about whether this should be how the issue is argued. On the one hand, no, I don't think most gay people are making a 'choice' any more than straight people are. Even if they were, though, why shouldn't they? Using 'choice' for homosexuality is only a problem if 'choice' is code for 'evil, wrong, immoral, against-God's-will choice'. If Palin genuinely believes that her friend's 'choice' is OK, then maybe it doesn't matter whether she 'chose' it or was born to it. It's only a problem if the person who's insisting you're making a 'choice' is then going to argue that you should have made the other choice and forfeit all your societal rights by not doing so.