feedback for "5-Minute Time Out: Real Food for Mother and Baby"

1. Very valuable information!  Its great to hear some new perspectives rather than just what we see advertised on food products!
   

   posted by : smg281 on 4/23/2009 at 12:27 PM Flag For Abuse

2. A provocative interview subject. But I question how many women who aren't in her economic class could or would follow her ideas.

   posted by : SRF on 4/23/2009 at 12:36 PM Flag For Abuse

3. I love this article. This very much mirrors the way that I ate during my pregnancy and how our family eats now. I never avoided fish in fact I craved it. Wild caught Pacific Salmon, yum, yum. I hope to hear more from this woman :)

   posted by : LuciaBlue on 4/23/2009 at 12:50 PM Flag For Abuse

4. I was with her until she started talking about raw milk.  While there is hysteria among prengant women to avoid all sorts of foods, I find the risks of raw milk far outway any benifits.  Pasteurization has saved many lives, and there is no reason why we should avoid technology that has helped us stay healthy.  I feel that this is up there with the anti-vaccination debate, something I find has been detrimental to the health of our children and communities.  Other than that, I do agree that those who can afford to eat healthy (not as easy for all individuals) and get foods from reputable sources should be encouraged to do so while pregnant.

   posted by : Mamabearsie on 4/23/2009 at 1:45 PM Flag For Abuse

5. This is a great article for both pregnant women and those who are thinking about getting pregnant in the next few years.  The sentiment is to keep it simple which makes it easy to live by.  It's important to have someone standing up for the food that doesn't have loud packaging and ad budgets. 

   posted by : ebh on 4/23/2009 at 2:02 PM Flag For Abuse

6. And if you need Nina's new book about Real Food for Babies, she also says if you're not comfortable with raw milk to get the best milk you can find. Pasteurized, homogenized whole milk from grass fed cows still has a lot of nutritional value in it.
   

   posted by : Kara H on 4/23/2009 at 2:26 PM Flag For Abuse

7. Loved the article, except the part on risk.  Old risk doesn't mean good risk.  New risk doesn't mean bad risk.  Risk is just risk, and we should reduce all of it as much as possible.  Back in the "traditional" days, there may not have been factories, but there were plenty of things contributing to the 10% infant mortality rate.  Even today, in third world countries without our technology and hygiene advancements (and even with antibiotics and other more modern medicines) infant mortality is shockingly high.
   
   Myself, I'll trade the factories belching "cancerous compounds" for a 0.01% infant mortality rate.

   posted by : Hmmm on 4/23/2009 at 3:00 PM Flag For Abuse

8. We are doing ourselves a disservice If we only compare ourselves to the third world.  US ranks 29th in industrialized nations according to the CDC down from 11th in 1960 (though, to be fair, the actual number of infant deaths have gone down)  We need to do better and since most of those deaths come from preterm infants, maybe looking at the quality of food encouraged during pregnancy should be a top priority to help more women carry to term.
   
   Consuming raw milk, cheese, and fish are all about knowing your sources.  If the source isn't up to par, a pregnant woman should pass.  But there are a lot of areas in this country that have access to really good quality raw products and those women shouldn't be discouraged from taking advantage of those nutritious foods.
   

   posted by : Kim Cotton on 4/23/2009 at 7:03 PM Flag For Abuse

9. Vitamin D deficiency is caused by staying indoors too much not from bad food choices.  Kids stay inside more and wear sunscreen.  You can also get plenty of Omega-3 oils from non fish sources.  I know, I am allergic to many fish.  I eat walnuts, fortified eggs and pasture butter.  Fish is not the only source.   Looks like she would know these things in her line of work.

   posted by : Alice on 4/24/2009 at 6:03 PM Flag For Abuse

10. @Kim Cotton, I agree with most of what you are saying. However, infant mortality is the highest in the rural south and poor inner-city neighborhoods. The issue is not raw milk vs. pasteurized - the issue is getting these women calcium in any form, or any form of nutrients. Also, getting prenatal care.

    posted by : Cali mom on 4/25/2009 at 12:44 PM Flag For Abuse

11. A lot of people have gotten sick drinking raw milk from sources they trust. Or more to the point, children have gotten sick, including permanent kidney damage, and some have died. Even people you trust can make simple mistakes with profound consequences.
    One of the couples in this story was obviously well trusted and very well meaning with regard to people's health.http://www.portlandtribune.com/news/story.php?story_id=30666
    
    before pleading guilty after this incident http://www.oregonlive.com/business/index.ssf/2008/06/two_plead_guilty_in_rawmilk_e.html
    
    Other sources:
    http://www.marlerclark.com/case_news/detail/e-coli-found-in-farms-raw-milk
    http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_092906_health_ecoli_wash.2b2597dc.html
    
    http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/fpd.2007.0072
    
    
    This isn't a new problem. It is a "traditional" one.https://scholarsbank.uoregon.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/1794/5039/mscr_1_Milk-borne_epidemic_of_septic_sore_throat.pdf?sequence=4
    
    
    

    posted by : catmom on 4/27/2009 at 1:44 PM Flag For Abuse

12. pasturizing and homogenizing milk makes it harder to digest which leads to lactose intolerance and milk allergies.  minorities are more prone to these.  raw milks should be seen as an option if you can find a good source.  just putting this out there.

    posted by : adjm on 4/28/2009 at 1:41 PM Flag For Abuse

13. @Alice: in her book she does mention all of those sources you listed as good and valuable.  Fish is just the easiest high dose of Omega-3s PLUS protein, which pregnant women need tons of.  I am not a huge fish fan myself (wish I was), so I eat chicken and take Nordic Naturals Fish Oil capsules.  I will have a nice grilled halibut, tilapia, mahi mahi etc. now and then.
    
    I drink raw milk from an excellent small source- in CA where the farms are regularly inspected and certified.  I have seen the small, clean farm with my own eyes and met the farmers.  I do realize it is a risk regardless, but I believe it is extremely minimal.  For me the benefits outweigh it (and I think they are greatly underestimated/misunderstood).  I do not have a need to judge anyone based on their personal choices for themselves and their babies... I certainly understand the anxiety and stress food choices can bring on, NEITHER of which is healthy for mom or baby.  So go with your gut, I say.

    posted by : Mandy on 5/18/2009 at 11:26 PM Flag For Abuse

14. Pasteurizing / homogenizing milk cannot increase lactose intolerance.  You either produce sufficient lactase to process lactose or you don't.  You can change over time, and most people do, but your tolerance of milk has nothing to do with pasteurization / homogenization.

    posted by : Eric on 6/5/2009 at 1:17 AM Flag For Abuse