feedback for "Bad Parent 3: Behind the Curve"

  1. Ugh - I know exactly what you're going through. Our now 2.5 yr old daughter seemed to be about 8 months behind every other child her age. She didn't get her first tooth until 13 months, walked at maybe 18 months, and had exactly 2 words for her first 2 years of life: 'mommy' and 'uh oh'.

    But then the teeth started coming in, she walked, and we took her to a speech therapist. She now speaks in  full sentences when last summer there was nothing.

     I lived in fear we going down the literal short-bus road for her as she grew older. I know every book and doctor says kids develop at different rates, which is only of comfort if your kid is ahead of the curve. But she will grow up ;)

    posted by : TunaCrook on 1/16/2007 at 5:09 PM Flag For Abuse

  2. Madeline, I'm so disgusted by your article. has it occured to you that your daughter (the below average one, to quote you) will read this some day? people like you shouldn't be allowed to parent. i'm so grateful to have a child who is healthy and wonderful in every way, as is every child. shame on you. you made fun of your daughter to get a laugh. you are a terrible mother, indeed, and not b/c your sweet daughter is behind in her development.

    posted by : sophiesmuma on 1/16/2007 at 6:27 PM Flag For Abuse

  3. A blue ribbon for myopia, priggishness, and political-correctness to sophiesmuma!

    posted by : VernonJames on 1/16/2007 at 9:07 PM Flag For Abuse

  4. Madeline -- Your description of Frances was nearly identical to that of my youngest son as a toddler,  (Slow and chubby, prone to drooling, walked and talked very late, a behind the curve baby.)  I too had the same concerns about my pre-natal diet -- a nutritional wasteland of grape juice, lime shebert and umpteen handfuls of Almond Rocas. My mother and pediatrician only fueled my anxieties. ("Don't you think he's seems a bit . . . dull?" was my mother's delicate query).
     
    Fast forward 20 years, that baby is now tall & athletic, with and incredible sense of humor, and will graduate from Harvard after just three years as an undergrad. (My mother now claims rather than wasting time speaking as a toddler, my son was thinking.)  And best yet, he doesn't drool any more.   
     
    I can't predict your daughter's height or whether she will attend an Ivy, but I do know this -- banish your parental doubt and embarrassment; soon enough, Frances will be in middle school and embarassed by you.
     
     
     

    posted by : BirdWalk on 1/16/2007 at 9:07 PM Flag For Abuse

  5. I want to say "only in America" but I am sure this is not the case.  This is not a competition, would you love your child any less if she was "below average"?  As you are an individual so is your child, children progress at different rates.  I love my daughter for who she is not what she achieves and everyday I am grateful that she is in my life.  You need to appreciate what you have - a healthy, beautiful and happy child.   

    posted by : AMHiggins on 1/17/2007 at 8:57 AM Flag For Abuse

  6. VernonJames - And a blue ribbon to YOU for defending a disrespectful article. let me guess, is the author a relative of yours?

    posted by : sophiesmuma on 1/17/2007 at 10:48 AM Flag For Abuse

  7. Are you kidding me?  Who the hell are you judging this mother for having these feelings. I'm disgusted with all of your comments about her ability to parent. A terrible parent? Really? For having these feelings or having the ability to express them? Being a mother is not all lollipops and play dates. There are dark days, very dark days. But maybe you have not experienced them because you only have ONE child. And that's right, yours is perfect. If you have never experienced an ADD, developmentally delayed child, or MULTIPLE children at one time, I suggest you read up on it and keep your BETTER THAN THOU attitude to yourself. If you claim your child is wonderful in every way you are not only lying to the readers, but to yourself.


    posted by : HeadMutha on 1/17/2007 at 2:16 PM Flag For Abuse

  8. Are you kidding me?  Who the hell are you judging this mother for having these feelings. I'm disgusted with all of your comments about her ability to parent. A terrible parent? Really? For having these feelings or having the ability to express them? Being a mother is not all lollipops and play dates. There are dark days, very dark days. But maybe you have not experienced them because you only have ONE child. And that's right, yours is perfect. If you have never experienced an ADD, developmentally delayed child, or MULTIPLE children at one time, I suggest you read up on it and keep your BETTER THAN THOU attitude to yourself. If you claim your child is wonderful in every way you are not only lying to the readers, but to yourself.


    posted by : HeadMutha on 1/17/2007 at 2:44 PM Flag For Abuse

  9. I love Madeline Holler's honesty and humor about parenting.  There is an amazing amount of pressure to be a "superstar" even at a young age.  I remember my daughter scored on the bottom 20th percentile on a standardized test in kindergarten.  Then I looked at the test (given by parent helpers) and saw that one of the questions was to identify a picture of a string mop.  She'd never seen one in her life (let alone seen her mom do housework -- just kidding). Now she's gone from being the bottom 20th percentile to getting straight A's in a very competitive high school.  Not because I'm pushing her but because she likes the challenge of seeing whether she can do it. (I say get a B and take the stink off of it - I know, bad parent).  Go Madeline!  Keep telling it like it is for you (and for those of us willing to embrace the ambiguities of parenting).

    posted by : Mamamarchelle on 1/17/2007 at 4:58 PM Flag For Abuse

  10. Your fifteen month old says 'hot'? I'm so impressed! 'Hot' is a  real word. My fifteen month old says 'dat'! which may be 'that' but, just quietly, I think it's just a fun thing to say. Your article made me worry more, but it also made me laugh.
     
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    posted by : mcb on 1/17/2007 at 7:47 PM Flag For Abuse

  11. HeadMutha - My whole point is that, as a mother, you should be able to provide your child with unconditional love and acceptance. I'm not 'holier than thou' - I just entered parenthood with realistic expectations. Did you think you were guaranteed a child as 'perfect' as you? It just saddens me all the competition and pressure there is on our children- we certainly don't need to heap on more with our own petty and juvenile insecurities. That's all. Peace out, Mutha.

    posted by : sophiesmuma on 1/18/2007 at 9:30 AM Flag For Abuse

  12. such a freighted subject -- expectations / insecurities on behalf of our kids are clearly extensions of our own expectations for ourselves / insecurities. and of course we all recall the weight of our parents expectations -- so often misplaced -- on our shoulders as children. on the one hand, ambition is a form of vanity and its ugly in an adult, and even more ugly when an adult projects it onto a child; on the other hand, who wants to live an ambition free world? and if we celebrate ambition in adults, isn't it hypocritical to have an indignation canniption when people express that instinct in relation to their children?

    the good news, from my perspective, is that there genuinely ARE a lot of ways to succeed in the world, and many forms of intelligence that set people apart. Jeapordy and crossword puzzle winners (who are long on measurable intelligence) are rarely big successes; a disproportionate number of people with ADD, meanwhile, are wildly successful. Twenty years ago, when i was in college, i would have thought these comments were polite consolations to the mass of failures in the world; now 20 years later, having seen many of my ivy league classmates flounder and a wide range of others succeed brilliantly, i know better.

    posted by : Papaganoose on 1/22/2007 at 2:48 PM Flag For Abuse

  13. Wow, sophiesmuma, I really think you are being terribly hard on the author.  She is simply articulating (in a humorous way) the secret fears that many parents have.  At no point in the article did she say she did not love her child or love her any less than her first daughter.  As parents there are many expectations/hopes/fears that we have for our children- outsiders (grandparents, friends, strangers on the street) can often exacerbate these.  It is only natural to at times be concerned about our children's development.  The author also states that she doesn't take her daughter to enrichment classes, specialists, etc which suggests to me that she is comfortable letting her daughter progress at her own pace (not that it's bad necessarily to do any of those things).  I felt the overall tone/point of the article was one of letting go of those apprehensions and fears and accepting one's child for who they are.

    Personally, I am not one for worrying over my child's development, but I could relate to the article as there have been times where I've found myself worrying over some developmental milestone my son was "late" from time to time- usually spurred by some concerned person telling me about some kid they know the same age who's been talking/walking/etc "for months now". 

    Did you actually even read the article through to the end??  I think the author sounds like a great mom who's just being honest about her feelings but not letting them shadow her care of her daughter.

    posted by : tiffanykapri on 1/22/2007 at 3:16 PM Flag For Abuse

  14. Be careful what you wish for. Once they start talking - it's a non-stop barrage of "what", "why" and "how" which can be both wonderful and frustrating (especially after you have answered the same question in a slightly different way 30 times in a row).

    posted by : Sara on 1/24/2007 at 1:43 AM Flag For Abuse

  15. Madeline is funny and fearless and the priggish responses to such uncomfortably honest writing is all to the writer's credit and is all the more reason for her -- and others -- to keep writing funny, fearless essays that expose who we are as mothers. For we mothers are just people, and all people have expectations in life, and especially expectations for our kids, no matter how hard we try to fight these impulses. Honest and brilliant. A great piece.

    posted by : crabmommy on 2/19/2007 at 11:47 PM Flag For Abuse

  16. I have had a similar, ugly and hidden worry about my daughter who is almost two:  I worry that she will be chunky, and that I as a parent will have contributed to the national childhood obesity epidemic.  She really is right in the middle of the chart, now- but she was way off it for most of the first year of her life.  She still has arm roll remnants and I am still afraid that they will never go away.  I think this fear is totally self-centered- I am worried that I created a fat child who will have social stigmas and health problems because I couldn't take care of her properly, and all of this will reflect on me.  But I have come to basically the same conclusion: provide her with a loving, accepting environment, focus on nutrition, and just love her no matter what.  I am also pregnant with #2, and keep wondering if I will constantly compare them.  Hopefully not- I know that can be damaging.  But I guess you just love 'em.

    posted by : mapgirl27 on 4/30/2007 at 9:58 PM Flag For Abuse

  17. Dear Ms. Holler, I think it's very normal for children to develop at different rates.  It's not uncommon, for instance, for one child to pick up skill after skill instantly and another to take some time for certain skills, interspersed with skill spurts.  You might find Dana Buchman's book interesting.  I can't remember what it's called right now, but it talks about learning style differences. Hang in there, Lucy

    posted by : Lucy on 7/29/2007 at 8:21 PM Flag For Abuse

  18. Thank you for this article! Though I don't tend to worry about my son's future, I recognize that he's always been a little "behind the curve" on speech and physical development. He's hit every milestone in his own time so far, though, and it's clear that he's bright and has a great sense of humour, even if he doesn't express it with many words yet. He's the type who will say a word once, get us all excited, and then refuse to repeat it. Ever. See? Funny guy.   I'm glad you're able to express your concerns and even laugh at your own thoughts/inclinations toward your daughter. I think your honesty will help you be the sort of parent who

    posted by : AllisonWonder on 10/15/2007 at 2:08 PM Flag For Abuse

  19. In my family, second and third kids were often slower to develop certain skills, especially talking. We theorized it's because an older sibling was often doing things for the smaller ones, giving them less incentive; why crawl to a toy when you can get it delivered by the older brother? (My sister finally asked the older kids not to do this.) One niece of mine crawled very very late, didn't speak at all until age two and wasn't able to say a coherent sentence until after her third birthday.   In any case, now that she is in kindergarten, it doesn't appear that she is slow in any way. She's extremely bright and creative. Maybe not a genius, but clearly keeping up and even a little ahead in some areas. Don't worry. My nephew was the fattest baby I have ever seen in my life. Exclusive, demand breastfeeding notwithstanding, he had rolls of rolls, a triple chin and double jowls. Doctors accused my sister of overfeeding him. Everyone was worried, except perhaps my sister who just refused to listen to anyone, and just kept doing what she was doing--which only made everyone else worry all the more. Around two he gradually started to trim down, and by the time he was three he was nearly average in weight. He grew into a very active, athletic, and perfectly trim little boy. At thirteen he is quickly becoming a little stud, quite popular with the ladies.   I'm glad my sister refused to get hung up about it. If she had, maybe he would have too, and the results might have been quite different.  

    sophiesmuma: I can't help thinking you didn't actually read the whole article., or else can't grasp different levels of meaning. This woman obviously loves her child. Admitting ones fears is healthy. I'd call it GOOD parenting.
       

    posted by : DeeEss on 10/15/2007 at 3:16 PM Flag For Abuse

  20. This article made me snort with laughter (I would have hooted, but my behind the curve baby is nearby). I love it! I'm sure, even as I read this, that Frances has evolved into her own wonderful, delicious little girl self. I bet she's even walking (after all, I'm two years late). We have a genius #1 baby and so far, all baby #2 has done is grab his feet and grin. He's four months old. Ah, but what a heart-stopping, perilously cute grin! I don't mind if I have to tote his gigantic self around on my hip forever, especially since he can finally hold his head up. He's my last baby. But his big sister is proving what we knew before we even conceived of her little brother: that's she is a helluva tough act to follow, and we shouldn't compare. I try not to, but when I succumb, somehow it just makes me giggle. I love my babies - and even if number two is a dummy, he's Nermal cute, so he'll probably end up popular and rich. Ha!

    posted by : JessicaMama on 5/30/2009 at 11:22 PM Flag For Abuse


   
  
 
 
   


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