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Toddlers Whose Parents Hit Have More Trouble Sleeping

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Crabmommy,

Anecdotal evidence is a logical fallacy. (In other words, a sample size of 4600 is much more accurate than a sample size of 1.) How can the knowledge “crabmommy’s kid was spanked and slept OK” be helpful to sociologists? By itself, it’s pretty meaningless — all it tells us is that there are outliers, which is true for every correlation. They’re looking at a general, average case, because general, average cases are more meaningful.

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Anonymous commented on Jan 01 70 at 12:00 am

Good point about the title, Diera. I’ve changed it.

hannahtm commented on Jan 01 70 at 12:00 am

I’ll add one other possibility… it is entirely possible that the child’s sleep problems are leading to sleep loss in the parent which leads to poor parental self control.

Diera is right.. we have no causal information, only a relationship.

Anonymous commented on Jan 01 70 at 12:00 am

P.S. Your title – “Hitting Leads To Sleep Problems” – is precisely what the researcher is saying you can’t conclude from his work. “Hitting Associated With Sleep Problems” would be much less misleading.

diera commented on Jan 01 70 at 12:00 am

I don’t think that they’re saying that the parents are justified in hitting the toddlers if the toddlers sleep poorly. They’re just saying that, once again, you cannot make a conclusion about a causal relationship because of an observed correlation. If hitting and sleep problems are observed to be correlated, it could mean that hitting leads sleep problems, or sleep problems lead to hitting, or a third factor causes both (maybe both parents and children have ADHD, for example, which could cause sleep problems in the children and poor impulse control in the adults). If you’re going to design effective interventions, you need to know what is really causing what, and the researcher is saying that you can’t conclude that from his study. Kudos to him for pointing that out.

diera commented on Jan 01 70 at 12:00 am

“Yelling” causes sleep problems? Give me a break. And okay, so “hitting” is “violence”– I assume you must mean all forms of hitting, even a spank here or there.
My child has been a fabulous sleeper all of her life. Even though I yell sometimes. And I went through a phase with her where a bit of spanking was something I chose to use (sparingly, but I did spank). She has always slept “like a baby.” I guess you’ll find a study to prove that she did that so as to psychologically escape the presence of her abusive mother. So be it–if that’s the case, it worked like a charm.

crabmommy commented on Jan 01 70 at 12:00 am

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