The Birds and Bees Talk Too Soon?
I told my 5-year-old how babies are made
“Me and Sofia and Mark all came from you, Mama,” announced my then three-year-old, Virginia, one evening. When I indicated that Dada had something to do with it, they were shocked.
They wanted to know how, but just as the words were leaving my lips – “Well, he fertilizes my egg and it grows into a baby” – I knew I was in big trouble.
“How does he do that?” asked Sofia, who at the time was studying basic biology in kindergarten. “Does he hug ya? Like a frog?”
“Well, yes, it’s kind of like that,” I replied, relieved for the help, as I swaddled our newborn, Mark, whose recent arrival was to blame for igniting the older kids’ curiosity.
I sensed that one of the most terrifying moments of parenthood was on its way down the pike, so the next week I bought a book called How to Say It to Your Kids. No relief there: I was advised to tell it like it is, albeit in simple terms.
My God, I thought, she’s only five. And if I tell her and word spreads around the playground, all the kindergarten parents will forever think of me as the person who spoiled their children’s innocence.
“Mom, can we have another baby?” Sofia asked at dinner a few weeks later. “Really?” I asked, pleased that she was happy with her brother but not feeling up to the endeavor. “Do you even know how to make a baby?” she then asked. When I replied in the affirmative, she began demanding demonstrations. “How does Dada hug you?” she asked. “Like this?” and she and her sister began enacting a series of bizarro hugs, chanting, “Like this? Like this?”
Noting that my shy husband, Enrico, had begun to vigorously scrub a pot for the first time in his life, I knew I was on my own. While the girls were busy inquiring of him, “How do you hug, Mama?” and “How do you help her?” I ran upstairs to my book and whizzed to the chapter on sexual reproduction. Damn. It still said you have to tell the truth.
Exhausted from interrogating Dad (an effort which so far had yielded only, “Eat your dinner!”), Sofia, desperate, collapsed at the top of the stairs and gasped, “How do you do it, Mama?”
That’s when I knew I had to lay the cards on the table.
“Well, if you really want to know, a mommy and a daddy take off their clothes and the daddy sticks his pee-pee in the mommy’s wee-wee.” (Yeah, I know I was supposed to use anatomical terms, but it sounded weird enough already.) A liquid comes out called sperm, and if it fertilizes the mom’s egg, a baby grows.”
Sofia stared at me expressionless for a second and then groaned: “I don’t think I want to have a baby. I don’t like that bad potty-word stuff.”
She slunk down the stairs, and I peeked through the railings as she explained “how they do it” to her little sister, who was finishing her fruit salad.
“Isn’t that yucky?” she asked Virginia, still small enough for a high chair.
Virginia picked over a piece of melon and said thoughtfully, “I like the wee-wee part.”
Experts say that Sofia’s reaction – a mixture of surprise and disgust – is to be expected of elementary-age kids. And in the months that followed, there wasn’t any scuttlebutt about her telling other kindergarten kids. I thought information like that would be too hot to keep secret, but apparently she was so horrified that she was rendered mute.
As it turned out, I was the one who was really changed. Once I got over the shock of losing my parenting purity – and so early! – I found myself getting into more conversationally sticky situations, only each time, I’d do it on purpose.
For example, I would take a deep breath and offer to explain the words of a Madonna song. When I told Sofia and Virginia that “Papa Don’t Preach” was about a teenage girl who accidentally got pregnant and wanted to keep the baby, they responded, “You mean, people WANT to do that?”
My hope, of course, is that having a thousand little conversations about things like sex and drugs instead of One Big Talk will increase the chances that my kids will come to me when they have difficult questions. And now that Sofia is nine, she still doesn’t ever want to have children. “Can I marry my best friend, Sabrina?” she wanted to know recently. “In some states,” I replied. But that’s a whole other conversation.
In the meantime I enjoy teasing her baby brother, Mark, who is now two, about someday producing grandchildren. “Since the girls don’t want to get married and have babies, you will, right, Mark?”
He’s still not sure what’s involved in that process, and I wonder how it will be to talk to a boy about the birds and the bees. For now, though, we’ll just enjoy Mark running around the house proclaiming triumphantly, “I gonna be a dada!”








This was a super cute article. I laughed out loud at the dialogue. I have a 4-yr-old and am also pregnant, so these kinds of questions are starting to creep up. Not the full-blown must know questions, but little bits and pieces. This gives me a lot of good ideas. Thanks!
Hi JS,
Thanks so much for your comment. I’m glad you liked the dialogue. I wrote it all down when it happened because it made me laugh so much. Good luck with possibly impending conversations!
Amy
I forget who it is, but there is some expert out there who recommends that with little kids, when they ask you where babies come from you start asking them questions such as “what do YOU think?” and then answering only the most specific things they ask you – that way, they don’t get more information than they can handle at the time. I know I didn’t describe this exactly as he/she (the expert) described it, but maybe someone else can help out with the name of the person? It seemed like a common-sense approach that would work. And then of course, when they’re older, you tell ‘em what really happens.
Great story! My three-year-old started asking how the egg got in my belly and how it got fertilized when his little sister was born in November. I got him a hilarious little book called “Where Willy Went” about a little sperm who lives inside Mr. Brown and is the fastest swimmer in his class. It was funny and gentle and opened the dialogue in an honest, age appropriate way. It seemed to settle the question for the moment.
Hey Hilo and Ronda,
I like those ideas: turning the question back on the child (like a psychotherapist would do!) and finding a cute child-friendly book.
Thanks for the suggestions!
Amy
I really enjoyed this story. I do the same thing, realizing halfway through a sentence that you’re opening up a much bigger can of worms then you ever intended too! Your portrayal of the interaction between your daughters is priceless, your younger daughters reaction was great – Lori, existentialpenguin.com
Hi Lori,
Yeah, I know the line “I like the wee-wee part” has been a favorite in our family.
I’m so glad you liked it! I’m going to check out your blog now.
Take care,
Amy
Loved this. ‘Damn. It still said you have to tell the truth!’
Yesterday, I found myself being told by my six year old son’s classmate exactly how babies come out and that it really, really hurts. I tried not to laugh and say, “really, you don’t say?”
But, I am super confused about the timeline. Sofia was five and Mark was a newborn when you explained the facts of life, but now Sofia is nine and Mark is two? Am I missing something?
Hahaha, I LOVE IT! This story cracked me up. My daughter is still young enough that I’ve got a few years before these questions pop up but I’ll keep the fact that “damn, I have to tell the truth” in mind when it happens.
We’re a two-mom family with a two-year-old daughter who was conceived in vitro using my partner’s egg and anonymous donor sperm, and I carried her. From the time she was tiny, we’ve told her the “story of how she was made,” because I want her to know the role that we both played in that, and because I want her to know the answer when she’s asked how she got made without a daddy.
Being as the only males in our house are a dog and a cat, she’s not real clear on the concept of “penis” (I’ve tried to explain, but she still lists her uncle in the litany of “People who have vulva.s” I really need to find opportunity for her to witness some baby boy diaper changes, I think.) so we’ve not gone there yet, but I really don’t think it’s a big huge deal for us. (Maybe because she won’t have the “ew” factor of knowing her parents had to do THAT to make her
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I knew about the penis-in-the-vagina part by the time I was five, and I’d know the “egg from Mama, seed from Daddy” part for a lot longer than that.
I think that if you’re just matter of fact with kids when they’re still little enough to not know they’re “supposed” to be embarrassed, it’s a lot easier than waiting for some big huge Talk.
As to the “whole other talk” the author refers to about her daughter being able to marry her friend in some states – I’m a lot more concerned about one.
I point out different kinds of families to her all the time, but I haven’t even begun to figure out how I will explaining to our daughter why Mama and Mommy can’t get married where we live, and why some people don’t like our kind of family.
Your too funny, because it seems like you could careless about telling her the whole story, you were more afraid of her then telling other kids, and the consequences. I’m also afraid of that, that my kid’s going to be that kid that knows everything grownup, popular only as the kid that knows everything “bad”, while me and him are hated by every parent in school, yet all the neighborhood kids won’t leave my house.
Count yourself lucky. Last summer my six-year-old, who already knew about the egg and sperm meeting in the mommy’s uterus and making a baby, asked me how the egg and sperm get there. As plainly as I could I explained the mechanics. She just wasn’t understanding how a penis could possibly get into a vagina, and when I refused to elaborate much, she asked “can kids watch?” um, no.
what a wonderful, charming post.
Excellent post.
But come on…”pee-pee” and “wee-wee.” That’s hilarious!
Like Mel Brooks’ “pee-pee envy” scene from High Anxiety.
Whozat well isn’t that funny because my 6 yr old son the other day said that a girl at school said 2 women couldn’t have babies, and I told him she was wrong. I said for instance maybe your Dad and I would not want to be together anymore and I could fall in love with a woman and look I have 2 kids. Or I said a woman could get some stuff from a man and put in her to make a baby, or they could adopt and then he piped in with or foster a child! So I have yet to have a real birds and the bees talk with my son but I have had a 2 women can have babies talk! Oh he did also ask if his Dad would then fall in love with another man, and I said well it doesn’t exactly work that way – oh he said I think you should go and give Dad a hug and a kiss. I guess he doesn’t want me running off with another woman!
I remember having a book when I was little. It was a picture book that showed how various animals made babies and the last pages were about humans. I don’t think I ever had to ask.
So glad you all like the story!
Cara in Exile: Can kids watch? I love it!
John: I absolutely loved your related post in Strollerderby. You made my week.
Voice of Reason: Good catch re the timeline. This piece has been in the pipeline for months. The original title was “I told my kindergartner…”. By the time it got published with a new name, I had forgotten that even though Sofia was five when she started kindergarten, she had recently turned six when we had the talk. Oops! Sorry for the confusion.
Whozat: You definitely have a more complicated story, but it sounds like you are handling it really well. I love how your daughter thinks her uncle has a vulva!
TiffanyinSF: Pictures can tell a thousand words, right?
I appreciate all your comments! It’s been my dream to be published in Babble. What a great community.
Sincerely,
Amy
whozat, I’m currently pregnant with a baby conceived the same way you conceived your daughter. My wife and I (we’re canadian) really want to be honest and upfront from the beginning but are struggling with age-appropriate terminology to use. We explained the procedure not too badly I think to our niece and nephew, but they’re 9 and 12…
I told my kids in stages too. We used correct names for private parts, and I never told them that babies are in their mommies “tummies.” “Uterus” was not a difficult word for them to learn, and they understood that food is in your tummy, and a baby grows in your uterus. The egg and sperm conversation came about 3-4 years later, and then the sexual intercourse conversation came about a year after with my oldest. They’ve always come to me with questions about everything, and now that they’re teenagers, their friends are comfortable being at our house and my kids will answer their friends’ questions and ask me if they’re missing anything or for me to fill in the gaps if necessary. I’ve always thought there’s too much information to have “the talk” and try to hit them with all sorts of things at one time. People would give me funny looks when my oldest (at age three) would say, “My mommy has a baby in her uterus,” but I knew I was doing the right thing.
Strangely, all of my boys have accepted my vague explanations at face value until they’re much older. Am I in for it with the one girl? Help!
Very fun essay, Amy.
LOL
Great article Amy! We had this conversation with Talia (4 years old) just last week. She knows we are made up of cells, so for about a year she’s been satisfied with – mommy and daddy have to put their cells together to make zygote and the zygote becomes a baby.. just last week she popped the question – but how do you guys put your cells together? do you take yours and daddys cells out and mix them up and put them back in your tummy? I chickened out at that point and told her it’s kind of magical… And she goes, you mean like Mary Poppins and Santa!! She’s thrilled with the idea and is begging to let her watch! I’ve left it at that for now.. I guess soon she would want to know how the magic works! I think I will be a little more comfortable with telling the real story now, after reading this post!
I’ve always been of the mind of when they ask tell them. My 4 year old hasn’t asked how the baby gets in or out yet but I am sure it will come up soon.
This is a great story. (And I will keep it in mind when my 5 year old inevitably starts asking questions.) I got another hard one yesterday and, to be honest, I had no idea how to respond. “What does dead mean?” and “Where do people go when they are dead?” I don’t want to be dishonest, but I also don’t want to scare her. I totally weaseled out of it in the moment by saying, “I can’t really answer that question. I don’t know,” (which is actually true I guess) and then quickly changed the subject.
oh my, that was hilarious. i laughed and cried at the same time. sitting here thinking about trying to say those things to my kids(3yr old boy, 1 yr old girl, and newborn boy) is horrifying. congrats to u for making it work, and i pray to god it will be that easy for me as well. thank u for this story.
If it makes you feel better, my mom explained the facts of life to me when I was in kindergarten. She is an OBGYN, so she grabbed her medical textbooks and showed me some diagrams. I apparently took the books with me to school the next day and started teaching the other kids during recess! LOL!
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