I Dont Spank My Kids
But is it bad child discipline
Parents who spank are so lucky.
I say that knowing that the question of whether to spank children is a controversial one, and there is very little overlap between the two camps; parents either use spanking as a discipline tool, or they don’t. I am comfortable with my status as a non-spanker, but sometimes I feel my pacifistic approach to parenting puts me at a clear disadvantage in the discipline department. I know parents who spank and I sometimes think, I want what you have : if only I could get it without the hitting part.
As it is, I do have a few very effective means of discipline that work most of the time: I use positive reinforcement; I work with my children to help them develop better decision-making skills and come up with alternative choices; I use time-outs; and when bad things happen, we discuss how to make them better.
But these are practices spankers and non-spankers have in common. The additional tool that parents who spank have, the one that I envy, is not the hitting itself but the threat of hitting. If a child has ever been whupped by her parents before, all a mother has to do is raise her hand or mention the word “spanking” or, if she works it really well, just raise her eyebrow a certain way, and the kid knows exactly what she’s getting at.
I have nothing in my parenting arsenal that comes even close to getting my kids in line that quickly. When my kid is pushing her limits and my buttons, when we’ve been through multiple “quiet times” and there’s nothing positive left to reinforce, when she’s staring smugly at me with her pointed finger just millimeters away from her innocent brother’s eyeball, in these situations, a spanking – or at least the threat of one -seems like it would do the trick very nicely. Wouldn’t that be better than what I do instead: go completely bonkers? My eyes bulge maniacally, angry screams gush from my mouth, and smoke all but pours out of my ears. It doesn’t feel good and it’s not effective. When I lose my cool like this, my daughter either winds up starting her own insane scream-fest, or she laughs at me.
I hate violence; I don’t hit people, ever, and I cover my eyes when there’s violence in movies. But when one of my kids’ misbehaviors has escalated beyond an acceptable limit, I feel my blood pressure and my temperature rise and I see stars. The sensation of forcefully driving my hand at the child whose actions incited me feels like it would relieve me. A smack seems like it would stop my child’s inappropriate behavior and assuage the ire that burns within me. Honestly, it seems like it might feel almost : good.
I don’t do it. Not ever. But I sometimes wonder what happens to all that anger I felt in the moment I wanted to spank. Does it just get stored until it eventually reveals itself in the form of gray hairs on my head and wrinkles on my face? Is it slowly eating away years from my life? I know how satisfying it can be to slam a door or throw a shoe when I’m angry. I can’t help but think spanking a child who has done something wrong would bring a similar level of satisfaction.
I don’t mean to suggest that people who spank their kids do it to blow off steam. Lots of parents consider spanking an effective, humane discipline tool that simply requires responsible use: You don’t spank while you’re angry with your child. Instead, you wait a few minutes and administer the punishment when you’re calm. So parents who spank theoretically have to pull themselves together more quickly than I do.
But I know I’m not the only parent who feels an overwhelming, emotionally driven urge to spank. Sometimes I wonder if it’s because I, like so many parents today, was spanked as a kid. I’ve heard peers of mine proclaim, “My parents hit me, and I turned out all right.” I certainly can’t dispute the latter part of that statement, though I wonder what they mean by all right. I like to think that I, too, turned out all right. But with some research concluding that spanking makes children more aggressive, I’m left wondering if that is where my urge to spank comes from. Is spanking an innate human behavior that those of us who don’t spank have to reprogram ourselves against? Or is my inherent urge to spank a result of having been on the receiving end of that disciplinary tactic in my formative years?
Fortunately I don’t suffer the urge very often. But when I do, it’s especially trying. I once worked so hard at resisting the urge to spank that I curled up my mouth in a scary way and said to my four year-old little girl in a Vincent Price voice, “You know, some parents hit their kids when they misbehave.” My words were unhealthy and unkind, and after I said them I felt like a terrible parent. But luckily, instead of terrifying my little girl, my comment prompted her to reply, “I don’t want you to hurt me. I just want you to love me.”
It’s no coincidence that she and I have the same desire. And I realize there could be serious fall-out from spanking that I’m not considering. But, every once in a while, I can’t help but think that it might keep me from getting as crazy as I sometimes do. And maybe if she knew the threat was real, I could just lift my hand in an ominous gesture – and not have to do anything at all.








As a parent who has been there, I say with all confidence that spanking can be a dangerous method of discipline. When we are stressed to the point of spanking our children, we run the risk of unintentionally hurting them. When we’ve lost our patience and at the very least become disgruntled, we are somewhat out of control or even angry. When we are angry we can hit with more force than we realize. Not only do we run the risk of physically abusing our kids, we also run the risk of frightening and/or confusing them. The very person they depend on for comfort and safety is now scaring and hurting them. That’s confusing. spanking can also teach the child to feel ugly about themselves. There are so many ways to discipline without physically and/or emotionally abusing the child. It requires educating ourselves and then applying what we’ve learned.
Thanks for sharing. Personally I am a spanker, I am the mother that all she has to do is raise an eyebrow or mention the belt and I have angels again. I have two boys that are three and one, I am doing it alone, and know that I have to be two people within one for the both of them in order to raise a men. Don’t get me wrong, I rarely ever spank my guys, but once the line has been crossed and a look isn’t working I will lay my oldest across my lap and pop his butt a few times. Their is a fine line between discipline and abuse. I meditate daily an make sure I stay at peace so their isn’t a moment that anyone can say I am abusive. I love my boys and provide tough love and education to the each of them. Just pray for me that I can keep it up. Peace and Blessings.
I don’t spank but I still have my parenting arsenal that does not make my kids fear me but to fear that my threats will come true. Last week, my son did not listen so I put him on time-out. After he did not listen for the second time, I threatened him with not going to the library and the big playground (two of his favorite places). He did not listen for the third time, so I did not take him to either place. He kept asking to go and I explained to him why we did not go. He understood, because he listened a lot better the entire week, even after we went to both places.
My threat changes with every situation, but I always think about anything he likes doing or playing with and that is what I take away. Even though my strategy requires great amounts of patience, it works and I don’t need to hurt my child.
I dont spank my kids,and the reason I dont is for one I was abused as a child,I also have alot of out of control angry at times,If you love you children why in the hell would you want to hurt them,all I,m trying to say is if you really love them there are other ways of discipline them with out hurting them, there,s a very thin line between discipline and abuse and your child will pay for it the rest of there life and there children will too…..
I should have wrote: “He understood, because he listened a lot better the entire week, and even after we went to both places the week after.” We visit both places every saturday, if he does not behave too bad
I have always been a believer of spankings because much like you mentioned, my mom rarely had to actually spank me. The threat was mostly enough. However, I am now a mother of two, with a particularly challenging lil boy. I initially tried spanking him and many times felt bad, later realizing that I had while still angry. My change of heart really came though when I realized this wasn’t even working on him (yes I was consistent). Instead, he became a hitter, scratched, bite and hairpuller. I had to ask myself, ” if it’s not working as an effective for of discipline, then am I not just hitting my kid?” We’ve since started trying to use time-out and find it’s very effective for all of us. It forces him and me to stop and calm down. I still get frustrated beyond belief sometimes and wish spanking was still on the table. His aggression has also pretty much disappeared as a result. I am in both camps though. I still believe for some kids that spanking work. Like me! I can only really remember getting one spanking but that was enough. I don’t think all kids can be put in a box. Kids learn differently, mature differently, communicate differently… wouldn’t it make sense that they may need to be disciplined differently?
For my two cents, I’d like to point out that spanking CAN be done rarely and effectively as part of parenting that could be classified as “attachment” with lots of other strategies. I do not believe spanking is a result of every non-desired behavior or something that should be used even on a regular basis. But there are some situations when the circumstances cannot be controlled to set the child up to do their best and obedience is absolutely mandatory for safety or family cultural reason where child defiance will result in a spanking. This is warned ahead of time, the child knows the result, parents talk to the child about WHY it happened, etc.
But i do believe the biggest problem with spanking is it is too satisfying for frustrated and upset parents and used completely out of context, eg “spanking because you didn’t put your dish in the sink” or other misbehaviors.
I feel ya! I have tried it & sadly have regretted it! My son doesn’t need it. Im not saying he wont one day, but I will have a ton of tools in my parenting tool box to go through before I get to that one. I guess I do spank him very very lightly when he is wiggling in the middle of a diaper change. That is the only thing that works in that situation. I make sure I am super calm & like I said I barely touch him. He is pretty sensitive to that touch though.
If you’ve never heard of love languages you should check it out, but if your child’s love language is Physical Touch, then a spanking would be devastating, as it was for me growing up.
I just think that it’s gross to have to walk this fine line between discipline and abuse. I don’t want my children to fear me, even if they’re well behaved because of it.
I don’t want my kids to listen to me out of fear. I see that when I simply yell, and that makes me feel bad enough and I don’t like who I am when I resort to it. I don’t spank because aside from asserting that I can inflict pain I don’t know what it teaches. If it’s not something I could legally do to another adult I don’t see how I can justify doing it to a child.
There’s never an excuse for hitting your children, no matter what they’ve done. Adults don’t get hit by the police when they’ve done something wrong, so why would you want to disrespect your child by hitting them? It also sends the message that if someone’s doing something you don’t like, you can hit them. I was a preschool/Kindergarten teacher before I had my son, and I now have an 18 month old and I’ve never once hit him, and I too can simply look at him, say his name, and raise an eyebrow and he’ll straighten up right away. In my opinion, if you’re intelligent enough and have a good enough relationship with your child, hitting isn’t necessary. Violence is a tool for the ignorant. PLEASE wise up ladies, and stop hitting your kids, unless you’d be completely okay with someone smacking you on the butt every time you smack your kid on the butt.
@Keb, police DO hit people. Soldier do kill other people. When it all comes down to it whether we are talking a two person interaction or nations of people interacting, sheer physical power wins the battle.
TT, when police hit people it’s an outrage in the community and oftentimes the department gets sued. I have two brothers who are police officers and they’re not allowed to hit unless in self defense. And soldiers do kill other people… in WAR. We’re talking about children here, not warriors. And when it comes down to it, really, knowledge wins the battle, not just sheer physical power. Behind every great military there is always a group of intelligent men (and sometimes women) calling the shots and making tactical plans for the military’s “sheer physical power.” Your argument needs some more thought.
Thanks to all who have read, and to those who provided feedback. I think every parent decides for him/herself whether or not spanking is part of their discipline plan. For me, spanking is completely off the table. I dont ever intend to spank my children. What I really struggle with, though, are those moments when I am at my wits end and cant figure out what the heck to do to regain a sense of order. I am grateful it doesnt happen very often. But there are moments, for sure, when I feel like Ive tried everything I can think of and nothing seems to work.
@KEB, police may not “hit” people, but physical coercion in many different forms is part of police work. I fail to see where a deliberate spank on a child’s bottom, when fully explained/expected is any worse than physical coercion to keep a child in time out, pulling a child by an arm out of a situation, etc (all strategies I see parent use routinely.) Spanking itself is NOT the problem, the problem, as the author SO well defined, is spanking is used because it’s satisfying to the PARENT. Most spanking research does not discern between the parent who uses the spanking rarely and without anger and “spankings” that are in the moment and/or abuse, and most spanking research also does not factor the qualities of families that USE spanking often or as a common means of displine vs families that never or rarely use spanking and use spanking in a very deliberate manner. And really, intelligent men behind the soliders still need those soldiers/physical eqiupment of physical punishment to get the point across when things are unreasonable with other diplomatic ways.
Of course, there,s the research that shows that kids spanked at a young age turn out better …http://www.newsweek.com/blogs/nurture-shock/2009/12/30/some-kids-are-never-spanked-do-they-turn-out-better.html
I am 32 and as a child my parents spanked me. Thank goodness they did. I knew my limits and I knew what would happen if I did something that I was not suppose to do. I turned out fine. I’m not aggressive at all. In fact, I have a ton of empathy and get so much out of helping people and doing for others. However, they not only spanked me but they taught me the importance of being nice and polite. My parents are awesome and I have the greatest respect for them raising me the way they did. I think if spanking is done the correct way then it should not cause any serious problems.
Wow! I can’t believe some of the pro-spanking comments on here! As a 33-year-old who was spanked, I can honestly say all it did was make me fear my mom and dread the days when she was home and in charge. The spanking made me a weaker adult, constantly saying “sorry” when it’s not necessary and wanting to please everyone. And I don’t even want to get in to what a struggle the teenage years wereconstantly looking for love in the wrong places, ending up in multiple abusive relationships because I thought that was what I deserved. I feel lucky that after therapy I am now married to a wonderful, loving husband and raising a happy, well-adjusted daughter who listens without being spanked and will never know what it’s like to have a person bigger than her, raise a hand to hit her, or “threaten to”as the writer so longs to do. Spanking is bad and lazy parenting. Try reasoning and talking to your kids. It works better than bullying!
my sister spanks and the reult that i have seen is that it makes her kids MORE defiant…even so far as screaming at her, mid-spanking, “that doesnt hurt!!!” i’m not saying that i dont get the urge sometimes, but i have a feeling that my DD is the kid who would tearfully ask for more just to show it didnt bother her.
I was spanked as a kid, and so was my husband. When we first started parenting we spanked our son. But it didn’t feel right, and I wanted to better. It took a lot of convincing for my husband, who wasn’t willing to admit that it might not be good for our son. But the truth is, he behaves better when we don’t hit him. Time-outs have dropped dramatically since we stopped spanking. The end all be all threat that works for us is naps! I don’t know if it will continue to work into the preschool years, but oh, boy does it get the kid to straighten up now!
My son is 2 1/2 and he finds it more disturbing to be yelled at than to be spanked. One swat when he’s done something dangerous and it’s over for both of us. When I yell at him and look really angry he bursts into tears and becomes very clingy.
We have a very active 20 month old son. He’s just started in with temper tantrums, hitting and whatnot. We’ve found that time-out seems to work very well for when he smacks the dog or one of us or needs an attitude adjustment. We’ve also found that there are some instances where we need to spank. For instance, if he pulls away from holding my hand in the drive-way and runs out into the street, he does not understand that he could get hurt or killed by running in the street. You can try to “use your words” but he’s 20 months old. He does understand that when he does it, he’ll get a spank on the legs. Same goes for hanging on the oven door.
I totally understand these parents who don’t spank. Where does that anger go? I would spank my child but my husband doesn’t want me to because we’re “bigger than them” so they can’t defend themselves. I was spanked as a child and I can honestly say, it worked and I still loved my parents. I have spanked my daughter a couple of times but not hard, just enough to relieve my pent up frustration. Yes our kids are going to drive us crazy but we knew this before we had them and should already have that down in our internal contract. They teach us patience throughout their lives, and they do test us A LOT, but we love them and do what needs to be done to keep the quiet around and the insanity at bay. I am for spanking but also non-spanking.
Spanking your child to let out pent up frustration? That is sick and it’s abuse. You would want your husband to hit you if he was frustrated so what take it out on your child? Go get a punching bag if you want something to beat up.
“What she discovered was another shocker: those whod been spanked just when they were youngages 2 to 6were doing a little better as teenagers than those whod never been spanked. On almost every measure.”
http://www.newsweek.com/blogs/nurture-shock/2009/12/30/some-kids-are-never-spanked-do-they-turn-out-better.html
There is a huge difference btwn an occasional spanking and regular beatings. I was spanked as a child and I believe that it gave me the boundaries I needed to follow my mother’s rules and be safe while growing up in a bad neighborhood. As a career nanny, spanking is completely off the table, especially b/c I don’t believe in hitting other people’s children. With that said, being a nanny for over 15yrs has taught me that you can effectively disipline a child without having to raise your hand and hit. It comes down to establishing the lines of mutual respect, understanding, firm rules, appropritate consequences for naughty behavior, and most importantly, being consistant with the consequences. I also find that it’s vital to anticipate certain triggers and have stratigeies to either avoid them, or keep the child distracted and occupied. New surroundings, lack of sleep, hunger, pent up energy, overexcitement, illness, and simple boredom are all recipes for naughty behavior. No one is perfect, I know I’ve had my moments where the kids and I ALL have to take a time out, but never in my life have I ever got to the point where I’ve wanted to hit a child in my care. Now there are some kids and some cases where I do believe a pop on the hand or bottom can be effective, such as when a child is doing something very dangerous. In those instances, a child needs to have the strongest impression that what they are doing is dangerous and may harm or kill them, but then again, it all depends on the child and what works best in your home. Most naughty behavior can be avoided if the parent is intuned to their child and prepared ahead of time. I know that as a future parent, my experiences will help a long way in correcting my own child, but even then, I know I may find the need to spank. If my own children behave HALF as well as the kids I’ve been paid to take care of, then spanking will be a rare event in my home.
Definitely disturbed by the pro-spanking commenters here. If you don’t want your children to hit people, don’t “discipline” them by hitting them. YOU are the adult, capable of rational thought, no? Think of a better way to help your child through difficult behavior than through violence. What if your boss slapped you at work? Even a light slap? What if your husband(wife) slapped you when you broke a dish, or forgot the dry cleaning, or yelled at him/her? Why, that’d be abuse! How is it ever acceptable to strike a child? And when does it become unacceptable? When they are big enough to evade you? To hit you back or protect themselves? And yes, I was spanked as a child, and I can angrily remember those few occasions and the shock and hurt I felt. I, of course, still love my parents, but those memories stand out.
What if your boss or husband gave you a time out or sent you to your room for misbehaving? Your analogy fails. Adults may not discipline other adults in any of those ways, or it is an abusive relationship. Parents on the other hand, must discipline children in a way that is effective for that child, or they (like the author) – and society (for example, the other kids in preschool) – pay the price. I have seen plenty of non spanked preschoolers who have noooo problem hitting and bullying other people time and again – hitting is not a behavior that you need to learn from your parents. Not every child needs a spanking. But every young child needs to learn fairly early that parents will deliver consequences for bad behavior – in a way that means something to that particular child.
Well of course spanking “works” in that it gets the undesirable behavior to stop. It’s an easy out. However, as much as spankers will try to rationalize their behavior all the research points to kids that are more aggressive, do worse in school, and have less of an ability to cope with conflict effectively. Not to mention that it’s hypocritical and teaches children that it is ok to use violence to get what you want as long as you are bigger/stronger than the other person. Someone kindly explain how hitting establishes ‘boundaries’ for children? I would think this would do the exact opposite. Enjoy your little monsters people.
No, not all the research. Not at all.
“anon” I never once said children don’t need boundaries or consequences. And my analogy works just fine. You are somehow under the impression that children “need” to have some sort of hard handed discipline to “control” them. Permissive parenting, I do not agree with, and I believe in consequences, which both my experience. But parents like to label fairly natural childhood behaviors as “bad” and “wrong”, when the heart of that child is NOT “bad” or “wrong”, and a lot of times they are reacting off impulses that they cannot control just yet. Nip those behaviors in the bud early, non -violently, and you’ll have a child who knows how to handle themselves as they grow up. Kids aren’t dumb, they’re learning.
Yelling is the new spanking.
“Catherine,” of course I never said “children “need” to have some sort of hard handed discipline to “control” them.” Nothing of the sort. I said “every young child needs to learn fairly early that parents will deliver consequences for bad behavior – in a way that means something to that particular child.” You think that gentle discipline methods always work for every child. I disagree. And Christina, you could not be more right. I’m waiting for the studies on that!
Anon, here are just a few recent articles about studies of spanking showing negative effects from spanking:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/nurturing-resilience/201009/spanking-makes-kids-more-aggressive-the-research-is-clear
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090924231749.htm
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/04/13/earlyshow/living/parenting/main6391729.shtml
Furthermore I found the conclusion to the Newsweek article interesting: “I admit to taking a leap here, but if the progressive parents are the ones who never spank (or at least theres a large overlap), then perhaps the consistency of discipline is more important than the form of discipline. In other words, spanking regularly isnt the problem; the problem is having no regular form of discipline at all.”
Basically, while they controlled for negative factors associated with spanking “correctly”, they didn’t control for parents who weren’t using alternative discipline “correctly”.
And FWIW, I was spanked “correctly” and think it still added quite a bit of fuel to the parent-hate I experienced as a teenager. NOT that everyone experiences it that way, but the problem is you don’t know how your kid will feel about it until it is too late. With all of this, it just seems far less fraught to not spank.
Alison, the trouble with almost every anti-spanking pronouncement, including the ones you list, is a failure to distinguish between correlation and causation. Some parents may discipline more because their kids have more trouble in the aggression and IQ categories to begin with – and that shows up when those children are measured by researchers. The studies fail to sort out whether spanking causes problems, or problems cause spanking. That’s why the data discussed in Newsweek are so interesting – because the researchers didn’t start out with a bias, but thought to take a look at all kinds of outcomes in high school – not just bad outcomes, and not just at age five. (A teenager may resent their parents for any kind of earlier discipline, but it doesn’t mean it didn’t do them good.) The Straus study in particular is a horrible mess, and even Straus – a noted anti spanking crusader – has admitted it. As the Wall Street Jounal’s statistics expert, writing about the Straus study, wrote: “attributing cognitive problems in children to spanking is hard enough. But then saying it is a major reason behind the lower IQ of a nation’s entire population is even trickier because there could be a new raft of potential causes.
Martin Wells, a statistician at Cornell University, re-ran the statistical test to check whether regional variations in IQ — which is lower in Latin America and Africa — could account for the IQ differences Prof. Straus found. After accounting for regional variations, Dr. Wells found the effect of spanking vanished. Dr. Wells plans to use the Prof. Straus’s research in the classroom to demonstrate why it is important to consider alternative explanations.”
So….if a child has a lower IQ (so they don’t learn things as quickly) it’s ok for them to be hit more? Whether spanking lowers IQ or children with IQ get into more trouble and therefore get hit more it still boils down to being plain wrong.
Personally, I don’t care what some study says. I have raised one who is now 29, and started again with one who is now 3. My sister raised 3 boys on her own and we never hit any of them…and they turned out fine. My son grew into a man that any parent would be proud of, and so far I’ve never gotten a negative comment about my daughter’s behavior from anyone (preschool, daycare, parents of other children)but I have gotten many comments on how good she is. You don’t ‘need’ to hit your kids. You do need to discipline. Your kids don’t ‘need’ to be hit. They need boundaries. Time out isn’t the only discipline available if you choose not to hit. I find that many parents who are staunch believers in spanking, don’t believe in any other discipline. That’s ALL there is. I don’t buy the IQ thing, but I do think that kids who are afraid to come to their parents with something they’ve done because they fear physical consequences, will avoid coming to parents when they’re teenagers, and that’s a time when they really NEED to be able to come to you. My son and I have a great relationship and always did. There was never a point in his teen years when he pushed me away, or was afraid to come to me with a problem. He was disciplined but I never used fear to control him. I completely believe that if you use fear, your child will behave in your presence, but behind your back they will find a way to do what they want, and keep it from you because fear is not true respect. If you want respect, treat your child with it. Respect to me, does not include the big people hitting the little people.
Let’s call it what it is: it is not “discipline”, it is PUNISHMENT. We punish the child when discipline fails. We can take a toy away, we can take the child away (“time out”), or we can physically hurt the child (“spank”). I love it when parents say they spank but not enough to hurt. So what was the purpose? The purpose of spanking is to hurt the child and to cause pain. When my father hit me when I was a child, the thought going through my head wasn’t “I deserved this” or “Now I know my boundaries”. It was “the only reason he is getting away with this is because he is bigger than me and someday I’ll be as big as him”. Spanking is the cowards was out. Instead of finding out what is causing the undesirable behavior, the parent hits the child, the child cries in pain, and the child will supposedly change her behavior. In my case, it was my older brother. He would do something he wasn’t suppose to do and pin it on me. Both of us would get hit. He didn’t mind because he was willing to get hit just to see me get hit. And there wasn’t a d@mn thing I could do to stop his behavior in order for me me not to get hit. My parents finally caught on that hitting was changing anyone’s behavior. I was hit for only three years that I can remember. But the fear of being hit turned my into a door mat. I was severly bullied at school for fear of being hit by the principal for getting into a fight (i.e., defending myself) and fear of being hit by my parents for getting into trouble at school. When I was hit, my lungs would stop working. That is the pain I remember. The acid build up in my lungs and the not being able to breathe. See, my father didn’t need to hit me. All he needed to do was put his hand over my mouth and nose for about a minute or so. It would have had the same affect.
Much discipline, including timeouts and toy timeouts, can also be described as punishment. In your case, it sounds as if your parents failed in their attempts to discipline you. Perhaps it was because they chose the wrong methods for the child that you were, perhaps they applied them badly, or perhaps it was because you didn’t do anything wrong – only your brother and your classmates. I’m not sure you would remember it any more favorably if they had yelled at you, grounded you, given you timeouts or other penalties for things that other children did. I’m curious – what was it that they did in the cases that it was actually you who did something wrong? I’m also curious if “Catherine” would call your brother’s behavior typical, but not bad or wrong. I think it is possible for behavior to be both typical and bad.
I wish more parents knew what spanking is in its entirety. The reasons, the when and when not to do, the goal of it, what it isn’t, etc. I fear many think it’s just an upset parent whacking their child. Spanking won’t help bad parenting, so I’m glad most don’t spank. (No point in getting spanked on top of being yelled at, no boundaries, unhugged, etc.) But it would help good parents if they knew what it really is and isn’t. I’m afraid spanking is another victim of hyperbole.
I find “please go to your room and cool off” or “Go to your room and come up with three reasons why…” or “Please go to your room because what you did made me so angry I don’t even know how to handle it”. But oh, how many times I have wanted to hit, not necessarily my child, but something, slam a door, throw a dish… Great article!
I spank my kids. When people hear that they cant beleive it! They say things like “Oh my gosh! Why do you beat your children?!” First of all, i do not “beat” my children. I spank them. There is a difference. And my kids perfer spankings. I did put my children in time-out when they were toddlers but what are you going to do when your child is older? You cant put your kid in time-out when they’re 8 years old. They like spankings better than getting grounded beacause you cry for a while, boo hoo hoo, and then you get up and go play with your friends. when your grounded you cant do that.
I am a teenager, and I dont plan on having children any time soon, but when I do I plan on spanking them. There is absolutly nothing wrong with a spanking. I was spanked as a child and there is nothing wrong with me and those of you saying spanking makes your IQ lower I am at the top of my class. I have had a 4.0 the first 2 years of high school and I am keeping that 4.0 for my JR and SR year, and I am in the running for Valedictorian! So if anything spanking made me SMARTER!!!
Brusing and welting you child is a lot different then spanking. A mild markless sting (or heck, even a red mark) on a childs butt or hand sinks a point in a LOT faster then their 5th time out ever will. And what with this counting thing. when I was growing up if you ever heard a parent declare “1″ by “3″ a punishment was coming. I saw a parent start counting at the park the other day… “26″ What the heck, 26!!!! thats abuse for everyone around them, not a childs punishment.
They ‘like’ spankings better? Have you lost your tiny mind? They don’t prefer to be hit. They simply prefer for it to be over so they can go on. What in the world do they learn from that?
I believe in spanking with major awareness toward it being a punishment, not a threat, nor an abuse. It doesn’t make a parent feel better, and without very strict self control, a truly close relationship between parent and child, and the ability to judge the entire situation accurately, it can really make the everyone just feel rotton. Spanking isn’t effective or even appropriate after a certain age, and if your kid travels between parents, well be careful!! I think spanking and yelling are the favorite punishments amongst younger parents, and are almost always used incorrectly by them. I was a prime example at 23 years old when I was new to motherhood. Things went wrong and I freaked out along with my one year old. It didn’t get better until I grew up and stopped using spanking as a bad behavior I exibitted and began using it rarely and with an understanding (my kids were made to go in their room and think about things while I composed then we discussed the punishment before I administered it). It does work, and it really puts my kids in a “think twice before acting” frame of mind. I don’t have to say more than “that’s 2!” or say more than once “time out”. My kids know there is a very consistant limit to those warnings. I never raise my hand or slap the table, wall, or slam the door. That’s the childish behavior I’m trying not to teach them. I raise my voice if the noise level in the room requires such, but yelling and screaming are bad behaviors I gave up several years ago when I finally realized “how to do it right”.
I was a spanked child. I would give ANYTHING to not have had that childhood. My parents started out spanking us,on the butts,with the pants on. After a while,that didn’t scare us. So they started spanking with the pants down. We grew numb to that bit of violence,too (according to my parents,anyway). So they started spanking with a belt. Then a belt with the pants down. Then,my father would stand over us at dinner,if we had been bickering or goofing around,with a belt in hand,ready to hit us,even in the face,with that belt. We got smacked int he mouth if we accidentally chewed with out mouths open. We got smacked in public,which is extra humiliating. I used to cry when any of my siblings were getting hit. My parents used hitting as THE form of punishment. Then,when I became a teenager,I was so enraged by all of the hitting,and the fact that we were never allowed to be kids,and be goofy,or even fight,that I started fighting back. Our household,my whole life,was about hitting,yelling screaming,saying hurtful things etc. If people think that hitting is a good way to parent,they’re fooling themselves. It’s the lazy way out. It doesn’t matter if you hit your child out of anger or not,it’s just lazy parenting. To parent out of love and non-violence takes work and patience. Hitting just makes things stop in the moment. You do not teach the child anything other than it’s OK to hit and it’s especially OK to hit those who are smaller than you,if they’re doing something you don’t like. My parents,who decided that it was OK to spank their 4 children,probably started out like many of you who decide to spank. Innocently thinking it’s OK. But it become harder and harder to control your anger when the child does something you don’t like,and then you find you’re hitting out of anger. Then you’re hitting harder or hitting them in places of their bodies you never dreamed of hitting them. Then,you’re breaking their noses,throwing them down on the ground,kicking them,hitting them with objects,and then,finally,something really bad happens and you are completely ashamed that you hurt your child in the way you did. Children are small,and it’s so easy to accidentally hurt them more than you meant to. You’re big and you know better (or you should). You should know that violence never solves anything. Violence (in any level) just breeds more violence. Children want to be loved and to be shown love,not be living in fear of any kind. When you hit a child,you teach them fear and you teach them to fear you. Do you really want you little one fearing YOU? I’ve had to go through many years of therapy and overcome a drug addiction to get through my anger towards my parents,anger that goes all the way back to when we were “just being spanked”. One of my earliest daydream memories of my parents was of me standing on my bed and punching each of my parents in the face and there was nothing they could do about it. They had to let me hit them over and over with all of my anger. I took my anger out on my 3 younger siblings. I did horrible things to them that I had to apologize for many years later,all because I didn’t know how to control my anger because I was never taught this control. I was only taught,if someone makes you angry,or does something that you said for them to not do,you’re allowed to hit and hit them however you want. and if they cry or fight with you,you and hit them again. Parents who hit never teach their children self control,how can you control yourself enough to hit your kids out of love? The two don’t go together! Violence and love do not mix and have no place in a relationship. If I ever feel that I want to hit my kids (I’m pregnant now) I will put myself through therapy again,at any cost. I will never put my babies through any percent of what I went through. Spanking your child solves absolutely nothing other than it makes you feel like you’re doing something to correct your child. You aren’t teaching and you aren’t loving. As I said before-spanking is lazy parenting.
You may be getting co-operation (angels again as an outward appearance) at the cost of something else internally e.g. self-esteem.
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You may be getting co-operation (angels again as an outward appearance) at the cost of something else internally e.g. self-esteem.
I am sorry for your childhood Lisa, but spanking is not the lazy way out. I was spanked as a child (and like I said before I am a teenager) and I remember my mother telling me that spanking me was just as painful for her as it was to me. She spanked me because she wanted me to be good person, she wanted me to know how to act, and to know what is right from what is wrong. I was not spanked for every punishment I had time outs, and other forms of punishment. I am no longer spanked, but I do have punishments (grounded), and to this day if I have a “smart mouth” I will get hit in the mouth but not with a belt (and yes I was spanked with a belt when I was younger). So in no means is spanking the lazy way out, it is not a tool for parent to get their anger out. Spanking is a form of punishment, and any good parent would see that spanking is not a form of abuse(even parents who don’t spanking, I am not saying only good parents spank!)There is clear difference between spanking and abuse. I was spanked when I was child not abused! (Just to clear up anything, when I said good parents I didnt not mean good parents are the parents who spanking because, I admitt some parents abuse their power as a parent and they go too far and do abuse their children. I am saying spanking parents and non spanking parents, no good parent will observe spanking as abuse.
i think it’s sad that people think just because they were spanked, it’s okay…or worse yet, thinking spanking equates to love. There are other means of discipline that parents can use which they ALSO do because they love their children and want them to grow to be decent human beings. There is no need to hit them, not to mention hitting WITH something is insane to me. Yes I was spanked as a child. Do I think they did that because they loved me? Not at all. They did it because it’s the easiest way they knew to get us to behave. I would not allow anyone to harm my child. I would not allow any adult to hit my child, even if it didn’t leave a mark. Why in the world would I ..the person who gave birth to them…their protector, teacher, nurturer, parent…ever want to cause them physical pain? I’m here to teach them; to bring them up! Not to bully them into submission because I can, and then excuse it by saying I did it because I love them. Parents say that it hurts them more to hit their child than it hurts the child. Yeah, it hurts because inside, they know it’s wrong to cause pain to the child they’re supposed to protect FROM pain. It’s a convenient and often over-used excuse, but it’s an excuse nonetheless.
My dad spanked me a lot when I was a kid. When I think back the things I remember more than anything were him threatening me and hitting me as hard as he could. He would drag me upstairs by my hair. Sure it worked for ten minutes while he was beating me, he thought I wouldnt do whatever I did again. But it just made me even more mad and I never felt like I could trust him or be around him. He always claims that the reason im so well behaved is because he hit me and dragged me by my hair. I’ll never do that to my kids. Never. I dont want them to remember me like that.
I think it’s terrible that people who take it to the level of smaking thier children in the face, ruin it for the rest of us spankers! People need to understand that there is a difference between child abuse (hitting a child with a belt in the face for example), and “spanking”. Think what you want, but my kids are well behaived, and intelligent, and here are the rules I follow and stick to: 1. give the child 4 chances to correct the behaivor with verbal warnings, redirection, and a time out. 2. Never hit more then 2 times 3. never hit with anything other than an open hand 4. only hit their fatty butt cheeks, nothing else.
Terri, if everyone who ‘spanked’ followed your guidelines, I wouldn’t be NEARLY as against it as I am. Most people who spank don’t think like you, and that’s where my aversion comes from.
I totally agree with this article…except that I decided to try spanking. My 4 year old is Out of control. I’ve tried parenting with love and Logic and it just doesn’t work. Today I just had enough and I told him (calmly) I guess I’m going to have to start spanking you. And I spanked him 3 times. I now feel awful but I still don’t know what to do. The gentle disipline is NOT working but everything in my heart (and research for that matter) is crying out that spanking isn’t right.
Reply to Whatsthebuzz: “I don’t buy the IQ thing, but I do think that kids who are afraid to come to their parents with something they’ve done because they fear physical consequences, will avoid coming to parents when they’re teenagers, and that’s a time when they really NEED to be able to come to you.”
I can understand where you’re coming from here. I’m not a parent yet, and I would hate to do anything that would cause my children to fear me or prevent them from communicating with me. But, looking back to my own childhood, I have to say, that’s not always the effect that spanking has. I think most of it depends on how kind and careful parents are, and what relationship they have with their children. I loved my parents very dearly growing up, and still do. I talked to my mom about…literally everything. My parents trusted me and I trusted them. I confided in them. And, when I’d done something wrong, I’d come to them and talk about it. I knew there was a chance I’d get a spanking for doing whatever it was that I did, but I also knew that my parents were fair and loving. I also knew that if I was honest and forthright, I would likely be forgiven with no need of punishment whatsoever, and I would have a good conscience. I remember my friends thought I was stupid for telling my parents everything. I remember on more than one occasion having them roll their eyes at me and tell me, “You’re TOO honest.” I shrugged it off. I thought they were the stupid ones. Sooner or later they’d get caught and they’d be in far worse trouble than I was, no matter what kind of discipline was practiced in their home – or, if they kept getting away with hiding the things they were doing wrong, they’d wind up in serious trouble in “real life.”
As a result, I think that my parents were extraordinarily well-balanced. I am the contented, kind and loving person that I am as a direct result of their kindness, consideration and wisdom. I only hope that if and when I become a parent, regardless of which forms of discipline my husband and I end up choosing, I can be as balanced, mild and effective with my own children, and earn the degree of love and respect I’ve always had for my parents.